Billy, is this the group that the guy was killed trying to set a deep air record in a cave in a cave? It seems to me I read an article where they author said they were inspired by deep air dives done in Wakulla. The deep air and the deep record guys have created a legacy of death that we need to combat wherever possible. Notice that nobody ever gets killed going long or doing serious stuff, only doing it wrong , or as a rusult of not being willing to do what is required to easily survive these dives. I still wonder what the attraction is with depth on air, other than the obvious fact that it is drug abuse in its simplest form, and is therfor easy to emulate, and I atill wonder why even the so-called most knoweldgeable players out there still fight the concept of physical fitness as preparation for surviving cold, decompression, fatigue and stress of hard dives. Wherever there appers to be an easier , softer way, a shortuct, or a magic carpet, you will find the stroke, firmly convinced that he or she too can do what they are unwilling to pay the price to do properly - it always seems esier to just gear up and jump in. I may not get out of every situation that is out there waiting for me, but at least I have the confindence that I have done everything I can to prepare, that I have thought it all through, and the successful history to know that whatever I am doing right, it is working, and I see no reason to expect this without the homework being done, the preparation being made, and the hours of hard training being done every day. Nobody wants to copy me, it is too much work. All of us need to immediately point out strokery, like this deep air diving nonsense that occurred in the New Zealand cave, and remind all divers that in fact nothing at all ws accomplished deep on air in Wakulla or anywhere else, and I personally went back and corrected the bullshit survey in there and saw the horrifying gouges on the walls , gear left on the floor, and lines laid to nowhere by the champions of deep air. Keep in mind that the limit of exploration by the air divers is less than a stage bottle's distance doing it right. I think that rather than see how deep they can go on air, or anything else, these guys should see how much scotch they can drink, and then see how far they can stick a baseball bat up their ass, as that is really all what they are doing is worth. - G
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