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Micheal, I read your post with interest. However, I don't understand how you got to feel that WKPP was downplayed and JJ was attacked. I subscribe to the list since way before George even knew the list was existing. I never read anyone saying anything bad things about JJ. All I read were compliment and message of appreciation. I know several divers who were trained by JJ and all of them are very satisfied. George is not WKPP. However, he is the Project Director and I believe he should act as such. I know several WKPP divers and none of them are acting like George. WKPP acheived outstanding results and to me, it is well proven that WKPP procedures are successful. Occasionally, George contributes positively to the list. I guess that these occasional messages are enough to justify that he brings value to the list. However, I feel that badmouthing, personal attacks, name calling are not contribution at all (if you want see how far it can go, look at the archives for 'TOM, READ THIS'). Many, many subscribers do not want to contribute anymore because of that attitude. As well, many very valuable contributors disapeared. Long time subscribers such as Rich Pyle certainly understand what I'm saying. >Yes, George Irvine can be tough, and is a strong personality. But, he is >on a mission. He does not want to see divers die. He has seen what the >various training agencies are teaching and as he puts it "is horrified". >The messenger is certainly not always diplomatic in his presentation, but >then again sometimes the truth hurts. Again nothing justify unrespectful behavior. I promote safer diving too. In my area, I wrote many articles that were published. I made presentations and I am not shy of telling a guy that he's doing bad things when I see him. However, I never treated anyone of 'asshole', 'stroke', 'moron', etc... The arguments should be around the treated subject, not around the individuals. >It is time for those that take pleasure in the WKPP bashing to STOP. I agree. And I wish WKPP will also stop bashing the rest of the planet. For example, I read dozens of messages from George and other WKPP members downplaying the USDCDT. I never, never saw anything from the targetted group against the WKPP. Who is bashing who? Tell me! >Those of you that have been involved with the letter writing to the state, >the name calling, the fake e-mails and the like know who you are. You also >need to know that this whole situation has gone well beyond tolerance. I am not aware of a letter to the state, but for the rest, I agree. >Fun is fun, but when it becomes destructive it is no longer worth any of >our time, effort or expense. This is well said. I hope that everyone understand what you just wrote. >Michael J. Kravit, >Boca Raton, Florida >WKPP Member Michel Therrien ASRDW&S Member
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