Reply to: RE>Here's a real one to think Well, there's one solution that would appear to me to ease the problem... Hook one or both knees around the rope to free up your hands Which can then get out the jon-line to attach to the hang line However, I'm not sure that this is realistic either. The reason is that if the current is that strong, it wasn't present at depth else it would have swept you away during your dive. Therefor, you had to enter the current during ascent. The boundary to the current was probably not knife sharp, so there was some period of time wherein the current was present but not as strong. It was at that time that you should have taken some preventative action like getting the jon-line ready for use. (Note, I would keep the Jon-Line VERY short under these circumstances since the current is so strong that you can't let go with even one hand, you certainly don'w want to be 6' away from the ascent line and have to fight your way back to it...) Re: What could you have done before the dive to prevent this... First of all, is this some unforseeable current (yeah, like there is such a thing...) -- i.e. this current has never been encountered before at this (or near) location? If it was truly unforseeable, then there's little that you could have done to prepare for it. If the current was forseeable, then preparations could have been made. The preparations to be made depend on other considerations: 1) Are there other divers in the water that are acting independently and, therefore, likely to be using a different dive/decompression regimen than you? 2) Are there other factors (such as rocks, etc.) that preclude the boat from unanchoring and turning the decompression stop into a drift dive? If the answer to the two of them above are "No", then a preparation should have been made to signal them that the upine would be detached and the dive turned into a drift. Probably a pelican float or other marker buoy to alert the boat that the divers have detached the boat (to assure them that the anchor line wasn't broken and that anchor itself wasn't dragging). If, on the other hand, there was a reason that the boar must keep on-station through your decompression hang, then provision should have been made for strain-relief at each of the stage points. Note that the people on-board the boat could easily be aware of the strength of the current and, therefor, could have gone down to rig the ascent line when it was noted that the current was increasing. Perhaps an even better possibility would have been a pressurized diver transfer bell and an on-deck chamber ::grin:: -- Kevin -- -------------------------------------- Date: 6/21/94 13:19 To: Kevin Klop From: Tracey Baker Since I opened my mouth and complained, I'll also offer a question I think might be useful to think about. This is based on an actual incident I heard about third-hand. I'll see what other folks have to say, and I'll send out the "solution" I decided to use (which came along with the story when I heard it) later. You're diving on an ocean wreck, depth about 130', with fairly good visibility and a slight current. After racking up a moderate amount of decompression, you begin your ascent. As you ascend, you notice the current becoming a bit stronger; when you finally get to your first stop, at 30', you are holding on to the ascent line with both hands so you won't get swept away -- the current has really picked up since you started your dive. You can't even let go with one hand long enough to get your jon line out, and about halfway through your 40 minute hang, your arms _hurt_ and you feel that you just can't hold on any longer. Questions: What do you do? Why? What other factors would affect your decision? What could you have done before or during this dive to prevent the problem? --tab -- Tracey Baker tab@pa*.co* "I don't think safety is the main issue here... You'd be stupid not to be safe." - J.Comly -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@opal.com'. 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