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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:41:57 -1000 (HST)
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*>
To: heyydude@pi*.co*
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Caustic Cocktails...


I agree with you.  I think the whole caustic thing was from the days when 
lithium, or some other non-water tolerant material was the only game in 
town.  I'm pretty sure the USN used mostly lithium (someone correct me), 
so I think they had good reason to fear the "cocktail".  However, I think 
Sodasorb and Sofnolime and other similar stuff is so benign that the 
"caustic cocktail" fear can be pretty--much laid to rest.

That's not saing that a total loop flood is no big deal - wet scrubber 
won't work right so in the rare event of a major flood, you'd still have 
to bail on OC.  But I don't think you have to worry as much about the 
"caustic" part.

Rich


On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 heyydude@pi*.co* wrote:

> Since rebreathers are becoming the hot topic on this board, and folks are
> talking about "Caustic Cocktails" - I thought I'd throw in my two cents... 
>  
> First, since I wanna dive with a full face mask, I have tried a couple.  In
> the process, I have flooded my canister with sea water and pool water on
> more than one occasion.  (I've now found the ultimate combination - the AGA
> mask with silicone lube to seal against my manly beard). 
>  
> NEVER have I got a "Caustic Cocktail" that everyone is wailing about.  My
> unit (the BioMarine CCR-155) handles accidental water flooding so well,
> that I would have to intentionally flood water through the thing to get any
> to come out of the intake hose, like maybe putting my garden hose in the
> exhaust side, and letting it run for a while... 
>  
> In fact, every time I have had a major flood, the unit continues to perform
> perfectly, I hardly noticed that I had got water into the system.  If it
> weren't for the Kogel valves bubbling in my DSV I wouldn't have known at
> all. 
>  
> I don't know how the Cis Lunar handles this, but it sounds like Rich is
> pretty happy with his.  He must be, since he is going to start using
> Lithium - if water touches that stuff, the unit will explode, sending the
> diver and all his rare undocumented fish flying like Superman over the
> reef... 
>  
> While this is a sight that might bring a smile to the faces of Dick King
> and all the BioMarine divers, we'd still hate to see it happen since us
> rebreather dudes got to stick together... 
>  
> The only "Caustic" you're going to get with a rebreather is "Caustic
> Comments" if you show up wearing an Odessey, or try to dive one in a cave
> next to Geo. and his boys... 
>  
> Later. 
>  
> Kevin 
> HeyyDude
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Richard Pyle
deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*
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