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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 10:18:38 -0400
From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
Organization: IANTD
To: heyydude@pi*.co*
CC: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Caustic Cocktails...
Kevin
I have quite a few dives on rebreathers over the last 30 years or so and 
unlike you I have had caustic cocktails. Including a couple on bio 
marine units. They are rare and with proper use and of course a good 
desing should be rather scarce.

The updated version of the odessey though that you seem to have stong 
feeling against even though you have not seen or used one is no more 
susceptiable to this problem than other units. By the way you may be 
shocked at the capability of this 'passive semi closed system", it 
maintains a FO2 within 2% of the supply gas regardless of depth or 
workload. It is a depth compensated biased unit thus gets more efficient 
with depth. Starting with a equivalent 5 to 1 ratio (gas supply0 at the 
surface to as much as 50 to 1 at 10 ATA. It avoids hyperoxia,and hypoxia 
problems with only hypercapnia being a problem if one floods the 
cannister. It is eaiser to breath than open circuit SCUBA. It is a100% 
mechnaical device. In short it is an great diving tool that will 
probably see a lot of use. It is the only semi closed system that I know 
of that is compatiable with tech diving and in this area it rivals all 
fully closed units I'm aware of. Yes I still love the cis lunar and the 
UT's, the inspiration, and the biomarine they all have there own 
distinict advantages.

George on caustic my lips are still sore today but you do not get 
dehibilated from a cocktail it just is unpleseant and a signal to 
bailout.
Tom
heyydude@pi*.co* wrote:
> 
> Since rebreathers are becoming the hot topic on this board, and folks are
> talking about "Caustic Cocktails" - I thought I'd throw in my two cents...
> 
> First, since I wanna dive with a full face mask, I have tried a couple.  In
> the process, I have flooded my canister with sea water and pool water on
> more than one occasion.  (I've now found the ultimate combination - the AGA
> mask with silicone lube to seal against my manly beard).
> 
> NEVER have I got a "Caustic Cocktail" that everyone is wailing about.  My
> unit (the BioMarine CCR-155) handles accidental water flooding so well,
> that I would have to intentionally flood water through the thing to get any
> to come out of the intake hose, like maybe putting my garden hose in the
> exhaust side, and letting it run for a while...
> 
> In fact, every time I have had a major flood, the unit continues to perform
> perfectly, I hardly noticed that I had got water into the system.  If it
> weren't for the Kogel valves bubbling in my DSV I wouldn't have known at
> all.
> 
> I don't know how the Cis Lunar handles this, but it sounds like Rich is
> pretty happy with his.  He must be, since he is going to start using
> Lithium - if water touches that stuff, the unit will explode, sending the
> diver and all his rare undocumented fish flying like Superman over the
> reef...
> 
> While this is a sight that might bring a smile to the faces of Dick King
> and all the BioMarine divers, we'd still hate to see it happen since us
> rebreather dudes got to stick together...
> 
> The only "Caustic" you're going to get with a rebreather is "Caustic
> Comments" if you show up wearing an Odessey, or try to dive one in a cave
> next to Geo. and his boys...
> 
> Later.
> 
> Kevin
> HeyyDude
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