On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 gmiiii@in*.co* wrote:

> 
>   Dennis, unlike you, I deal in facts - when and if you EVER have some, let's 
> hear it. I am sorry you resent reality so much.

wow, ya lost me almost completely in this post, but the last few days have
been a blurr, hope i did't piss you offf like i did rich trying to be
funny.  i thought  i was pretty grounded in facts after seeing thru all
the crap over the last couple of years. >  
>



   When any of you do a real cave dive with closed circuit, let us know. I
don't 
> mean you or Rich, I know you don't cave dive. By the way, why does Stone or
King 
> not do it? Why? They have rebreathers, they supposedly cave dive, although
that 
> is stretching the definition a bit

yeah i would be the first to admit that cave diving scares the shit out of
me, i mean i can see why you go for alot of reasons, the photos of the
caves i've seen from mexico,  i have been in some of the local caves here,
but i know they are just a blink of an eye to what you guys are doing.
there are some local tubes where you can swim back inot and get out of the
water and there are some wet caves i've done on kauai, one of them was
about two football fields long (one of the three tubes), it silted out
fromthe ceiling due to our bubbles.. that was one of the worst days of my
life.. scared i mean, i would like to go back and d0 that with closed
circuit.... would still be scared.  

have always planned to do a cave course with tom and would love to do some
of the mexico stuff,, don't know tho george.. it would be hard for  me
way back in a hole.. maybe if it was super clear..

> 
>   My opinion is that they have nothing that works, and do not have the balls
if 
> it did.
> 
>   When did Dennis become the rebreather maven? 

i am in the hospital and don't have my dictionary, does "maven" mean
expert?



Dennis, no need to be an asshole, 
  
sorry george, just kidding, if you are talking about you haveing one on
next time we are in the same room..  just trying to be funny again and i
guess not doing a very good job of it.



>  I am serious about this stuff - look at the stats, and answer my


wuestion, and 
> quit being a weenie. I kow the answer, Farb and Rich know it, but then they
are 
> not telling me any different, and I know what works for them.
> 

what stuff are you serious about, what stats? what is your question.  i
quit being a weenie when i left tdi and started making up my own mind.


dp

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