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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:35:45 -0700
From: "George M. Irvine III" <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Subject: Re: Wreck Diver Lost
To: rfarb <rfarb@na*.ne*>, Richard Pyle
    
Cc: George Irvine <gmiiii@in*.co*>, Tech Diver <techdiver@terra.net>

  Rod, Rich is trying to make a case for that rebreather of his, or something.
I 
need to take him for a dive, and he will sell that thing, along with all of his 
dive gear, and collect fish with a fishing rod. I also think that he is somehow 
believing that there is some big mystery to deep diving. The trick is to bring 
the dive up to you, not go down to it. One of those tricks is to have a good 
buddy or two, as you well now. We have guys like Clayton in cave diving, and
one 
in particular is up to seven on his "leave dead buddy in cave" count. Maybe
Rich 
thinks we mean this guy, in which case he has a point.

On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, rfarb <rfarb@na*.ne*> wrote:
>Rich, why do you have two rebreathers out there? What is the second one
>used for? Why in some of your earlier posts about the rebreather do you
>refer to another diver as your dive buddy? Did you do your deep dives off
>of the Halstead's boat solo?  When was the last time you dove your
>rebreather solo on a deep dive? I think you mean by solo that you are
>totally trained and self contained and not dependent upon a soul to bail
>you out because you can do it all yourself and have only yourself to worry
>about and no one else, and whatever happens to you when you willingly go
>underwater is totally your responsibility and no one else.  Right? Well,
>why are caves the exception? What about deep inside the Andria Doria? 
>You cannot find your way out of a room deep inside the wreck on your solo
>dive. You happen to run into another solo diver lost in the room just
>like you. You are both low on gas. It's dark and both of you have a light.
>One of you, say, you, discovers the way out of the room. Do you signal to
>the other diver on the other side of the room and point the way out or do
>you just leave? Are you a Pete Manchee or a Ken Clayton? Rod 
>
>On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Richard Pyle wrote:
>
>> 
>> > >You don't search for the diver at 400 feet, you already know where he is
>> > >because you are with him.
>> > 
>> >     Rod, well said. I agree with you comepletely. Unfortunately, ther is a 
>> 
>> You guys are both wrong.  Eventually the diving world will understand 
>> that the only safe way to make 300+ foot dives is solo, except in a cave. 
>> Shallow diving mentality does not work down deep.
>> 
>> >     Like you said, the safety comes first, getting to a wreck second. The 
wreck 
>> > will still be there. 
>> 
>> On this count, you are both right.
>> 
>> >     We had a situation on a 430 wreck where we discovered that the surface 
>> > current was going north, and the bottom current below 150 was going south. 
>> 
>> "A" situation?  G-man, this is NORMAL!  I can't remember the last 300+' 
>> dive I made where the bottom current was going the same way as the top 
>> current.  I don't think I've ever made such a dive.  This is why you dive 
>> solo, and you don't screw around with towed surface floats unless you 
>> absolutely have to.
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>
>

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