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From: "David Norton (Volt Comp)" <a-davnor@MI*.co*>
To: "'Irvine@m2*.in*.co*'" <Irvine@m2*.in*.co*>
Cc: "'cavers@ge*.co*'" <cavers@ge*.co*>,
     "'techdiver@terra.net'"
    
Subject: RE: Deep Nitrox Again?
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:55:15 -0700
People need to have some sort of training.  Formalizing the process
allows one to improve the content of the courses as you learn from your
and others mistakes.  Because of that training agencies are good. 
Period.

Every emergency situation is different and yes, people need to have some
sort of native intelligence to recognize them and respond appropriately.
 (that may be the definition of stroke, BTW)

What should be done about deco in a emergency is a interesting question
that I've never received training on through my IANTD classes.  I
checked in my Adv. Nitrox, Tech Nitrox, Adv. Deep Air book/outlines.  

If the diver is consciousness, I think you could nurse someone through
the stop if it is a mask failure or something.  unconsciousness diver
you probably couldn't get a gas switch, but you could switch to deco
gases.  In cave that may work.  In a current on a free ascent line,
probably not without some sort of help. You'd have to call it on the
spot. ( oh no, discretionary thinking )


*****************************************
David Norton

Microsoft Interactive Media Travel Products - Database Test Lead
IANTD Adv. Nitrox
PADI   Divemaster
Disclaimer: This is not the opinion of any business, agency or
organization I'm affiliated with.
******************************************




>----------
>From: 	Irvine@m2*.in*.co*[SMTP:Irvine@m2.interserv.com]
>Sent: 	Thursday, June 20, 1996 4:09 PM
>To: 	Richard Pyle
>Cc: 	cavers@ge*.co*; techdiver@terra.net
>Subject: 	Re: Deep Nitrox Again?
>
>
> I agree, but they need to be looking over their shoulder, especially
>when they 
>start racking up a big "count", and a big scorecard. Leaving dead buddy
>and 
>running for deco is not cool. Also, being "cute" and certifying the
>divers prior 
>to the dive is no answer, either. 
>
> What is the answer is to stop the practice of shoving these bullshit
>courses 
>down evryone throat. How about they learn how to dive first. - G
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