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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:57:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Adam Fine <afn44015@af*.or*>
To: anonomous@sa*.ne*
cc: techdiver@terra.net, cavers@ge*.co*
Subject: Re: THE REAL STORY



Gee...I saw alot of goobers and weenies on this email...I wonder who sent
it?

On Fri, 26 Apr 1996 anonomous@sa*.ne* wrote:

> 
>       After watching all of the snivelling weenies speculate about Wakulla,
> it is now necessary to bring out a couple of facts.
> 
>       First of all, King is paying Stone to try to get him into Wakulla, as
> King clearly could not get into anywhere on his own pathetic track record.
> He bungled the Sally Ward exploration due to being incapable of cave diving
> and a total wimp. The Eagles Nest and Diepolder jokes were again pathetic
> attempts to pretend to explore - sheer weenie dives involving penetrations
> that can be done on a stage bottle. The bungled Sally dives and survey that
> was 90 degrees off, done by the spineless, gutless weenie himself, cost the
> State a fortune as they did not buy the right land and now it is rezoned and
> ten times the price. Nice work, Wimp. 
> 
>        Stone himself is no cave diver, and has never done any of the things
> he is promising to do in Wakulla. He has not prven any "methods" or gear,
> and has no business butting into a scientific research project in order to
> aggrandize himself and his financeer. I think we can all see where this
> mercenary asshole's head is - firmly up Jim King's ass (as long as that is
> where the money is).
> 
>        When any of these strokes can prove anything in Leon Sinks, which is
> open to the public, then they will be ready to try Wakulla. But since the
> depths and distances in Wakulla are already three times further than any of
> these jokers have ever been , it is higly unlikely that anyone will take
> them seriously, other than the wannabee strokes on these lists, who want to
> believe that there are shortcuts and magic carpets to everything, and that
> wimps who do not have the balls to do what it takes can compete with the
> pros. Fat chance, weenies. 
> 
>        The other big problem with these guys is their cavalier attitude
> about the reasource, about peoples lives, and about the importance of an
> holistic approach. This is due to a blatent lack of understanding of what
> they are trying to get involved in. A screwup by these guys, whether it be a
> death, detruction of the reasource, interruption of the facitlity, or
> genreral nuissance would result in access being denied for ever to anyone.
> On the other hand, the current players have developped real gear and real
> techniques that are shared with the entire community for all their diving,
> and have made this kind of diving acceptable to the landowners and
> governement, and have proven the value of cave diving. These guys have also
> proven trimix cave diving and deco schedules in water, something that is now
> taught by several agencies, and considered normal for diving by everyone who
> is in a position to grant access.
> 
>        These guys need to wait their turn, and come back when they have some
> proof that they can do something. They are severely outclassed. They can do
> nothing but make us all look bad, get us all locked out, and  disrupt a
> project that involves 70 people, four Government agencies, two universities,
> ten years of work, and interconnected permits from four different entities,
> with cooperation from numerous private landowners where insurance and legal
> documents, as well as contracts to provide data are already in place,
> including grants that are interlcocking between different entities to
> proveide data on a coordinated basis. Why should some asshole from Tennessse
> who is a total goober get in the middle of this? He might be able to buy
> Stone, but who else can he buy? There cetainly could be no ther way for
> somebady who is a proven and known pussy, who is a proven and knonw
> ignoramus, and a proven and known clown to jump in. He shold try balloon
> racing, or offshore powerboats, or some other "sport" where the arduous
> application of green pictures of dead presidents is the only requirement for
> success. 
> 
>        As is always the case with the diving communities, the weenies and
> morons would love to see the playing field leveled, but are unwilling to
> obtain the knowledge, or do the work to get there. 
> 
>        The fact is, nothing can replace what these guys lack.
> 
>       
> 
> 

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