In message <960425112513_382476003@em*.ma*.ao*.co*>, CHKBOONE@ao*.co* writes > > > > >John & David, > >I had been wondering why no one else had apparently discovered the tape or >line in a bag trick as opposed to a reel. I use a 3/16" climbing type rope >in a spaghetti can made by rubbermaid with the lift bag also inside the >canister. This is a very neat package about the size of a 13 cu ft pony >bottle, easily stored and deployed and, as you say, no tangles or pull on the >diver. Mine is intended for drifting so I only have to pack 100 feet of line >into the canister and it is very easy to just pull out from under surgical >tubing between a set of twins. Lighter than a reel too. > >Retrieval, In my case, is more tedious than cutting sisal rope and leaving it >but it gives you something constructive to do on the hang. > >Either a bag or canister is a far superior way to store and deploy any long >synthetic line whether from the wreck or from mid water than a reel. Simply >pack your line or tape in from the bottom up just like a throw rope so it >feeds out smoothly. > >Sisal tends to grab itself more redily than a slick nylon so may pull out >globs here and there with more tendency to tangle if not packed just right - >maybe even if packed right. It may be less practical, possibly dangerous, >rigged in a bag or canister and deployed as an up line from the wreck since >enough tangles will leave you short of the surface. > > Leaving nylon line on a wreck is bad form so in order to use this neat >canister with a line that will deploy smoothly and reliably I have to go with >a drifting setup which I think is more versatile and easier to handle anyway. > I just can't bring myself to use that huge cumbersom reel that requires two >hands to deploy, weighs a ton, pulls you up if not holding onto the wreck >with a free leg, and then leaves you hanging out like a flag in a current. > I carry good signaling devices and make sure the boat people know what I >have! > >I too would like to know what John does with the tape after surfacing. > I normally allow the surface team to pull it in. We have D-rings every 3m to allow us to hang stages etc if required from the buoy, the whole thing can be left floating if there is difficulty with the pick up and retrieved later on. Our tape bag has a small lead weight in it so the system is deployed totally remote from yourself so avoiding hang ups. >Another trick - Kevlar line is excellent as a jon line as well as in other >short line applications. I sometimes use an 8 foot length of this because it >remains stiff, is impossible to tangle, and doesn't sag in the middle as >badly. Knots are sometimes a problem easily solved with crimped loops >instead. I have also used 1" tape for this and both roll into a neat bundle >under elastic (bicycle inertube section) and remain attached to my harness >out of the way but ready for instant use anywhere there is something to clip >onto. > >Chuck > >============================= > On the 17th John said: > <c> > We generally deploy these from the wreck to surface if we cannot get > back to the shot line.We use tape in a bag rather than a reel and > line, we find that tape never gets tangled and it can be deployed > totally remote from the diver meaning no possibility of being > entangled and lifted by the buoy. > <c> > -- > john thornton > -- > <end> > > Could I get some elaboration on this? What kind of tape and how do you > make sure this doesn't get tangled, i.e. how do you pack it? Also, what > means do you have of retrieving the mess that's attached to the wreck? > Or is it just left there like garbage? What do you do in strong current > that can pull the sausage/buoy down? > > David Drake EDS/SATURN Infrastructure 8-320-4190 on GMnet > Spring Hill, TN USA Internet: saturn.ddrake05@gm*.co* >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. -- john thornton
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