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John & David,
I had been wondering why no one else had apparently discovered the tape or
line in a bag trick as opposed to a reel. I use a 3/16" climbing type rope
in a spaghetti can made by rubbermaid with the lift bag also inside the
canister. This is a very neat package about the size of a 13 cu ft pony
bottle, easily stored and deployed and, as you say, no tangles or pull on the
diver. Mine is intended for drifting so I only have to pack 100 feet of line
into the canister and it is very easy to just pull out from under surgical
tubing between a set of twins. Lighter than a reel too.
Retrieval, In my case, is more tedious than cutting sisal rope and leaving it
but it gives you something constructive to do on the hang.
Either a bag or canister is a far superior way to store and deploy any long
synthetic line whether from the wreck or from mid water than a reel. Simply
pack your line or tape in from the bottom up just like a throw rope so it
feeds out smoothly.
Sisal tends to grab itself more redily than a slick nylon so may pull out
globs here and there with more tendency to tangle if not packed just right -
maybe even if packed right. It may be less practical, possibly dangerous,
rigged in a bag or canister and deployed as an up line from the wreck since
enough tangles will leave you short of the surface.
Leaving nylon line on a wreck is bad form so in order to use this neat
canister with a line that will deploy smoothly and reliably I have to go with
a drifting setup which I think is more versatile and easier to handle anyway.
I just can't bring myself to use that huge cumbersom reel that requires two
hands to deploy, weighs a ton, pulls you up if not holding onto the wreck
with a free leg, and then leaves you hanging out like a flag in a current.
I carry good signaling devices and make sure the boat people know what I
have!
I too would like to know what John does with the tape after surfacing.
Another trick - Kevlar line is excellent as a jon line as well as in other
short line applications. I sometimes use an 8 foot length of this because it
remains stiff, is impossible to tangle, and doesn't sag in the middle as
badly. Knots are sometimes a problem easily solved with crimped loops
instead. I have also used 1" tape for this and both roll into a neat bundle
under elastic (bicycle inertube section) and remain attached to my harness
out of the way but ready for instant use anywhere there is something to clip
onto.
Chuck
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On the 17th John said:
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We generally deploy these from the wreck to surface if we cannot get
back to the shot line.We use tape in a bag rather than a reel and
line, we find that tape never gets tangled and it can be deployed
totally remote from the diver meaning no possibility of being
entangled and lifted by the buoy.
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john thornton
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Could I get some elaboration on this? What kind of tape and how do you
make sure this doesn't get tangled, i.e. how do you pack it? Also, what
means do you have of retrieving the mess that's attached to the wreck?
Or is it just left there like garbage? What do you do in strong current
that can pull the sausage/buoy down?
David Drake EDS/SATURN Infrastructure 8-320-4190 on GMnet
Spring Hill, TN USA Internet: saturn.ddrake05@gm*.co*
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