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Dan, I'll start with B first. After you answered my question, I was satisfied with your answer and accepted it completely. At BTS at the Meadowlands this weekend, I repeated your answer to someone who knows a lot about the Odessey, Kellam and the major who Kellam is talking to. That is to say they know what they have been told. I was told that your answer to me was incorrect in the following ways: Odyssey is not about to be manufactured by one of the majors. Only that the two O's were talking and no deal had been struck. And "most certainly" (their words), press releases are not about to be sent out soon. Another person who was familiar with the situation told me that there has been built only one functioning unit although there are five or six empty shells that resemble the unit but have no internal components. I have seen this type of unit at DEMA. I was told at DEMA- when I asked about the internal components and their absence- that the company didn't install them for fear that something would be stolen at the show. They also told me that the unit was to be built by Brownie's Third Lung but that the deal fell through, and the attempted deal between the two O's was another of a few attempts to get more than one unit built. The persons telling me this stuff did so independently and were fanatical Odyssey people. You do the math. BioMarine doesn't pay me to say anything. I own and use their product and I am very pleased with it. They know what they are doing because they have a good solid history of building rebreathers- rebreathers that have been dived by military forces around the world for years. The hundreds of thousands of hours of using and refining the units have made a great product. There are seven CCR155 and ten CCR1000's in use today for non-military purposes that I know of personally. That's not to say there aren't nor can't be any other good products out there. Cis-Lunar is certainly a great unit and several are actively in use today, as well. Draeger has units out there and so does Fieno. There are Prism units that work and even the now defunct major "O" had two fuctional units and the wherewithal to produce more. Odyssey has one unit and six shells and cannot- if you believe the Odyssey fanatics- produce another unit unless someone else bankrolls it. I did the math and Odyssey doesn't equate to a company whose "economic health is quite good". Your only hope for redemption and salvation lies in a solid marriage between the "O"'s and soon. Otherwise, you be a dork. the fuck is telling you shit like this, > and why the hell don't you check the validity of your information before you > make public posts???? Is Biomarine paying you to play "information > terrorist" or something ;) ??? I really would like to know who is saying > this shit, especially when it effects my credibility, and after I just > posted that Odyssey was "NOT" going belly up, and in fact, could have just > made a spectacular deal. I just spoke to Odyssey, not five minutes ago, and > was told that their economic health is quite good, and they have extremely > low debt service, by any standards. > I'd like a shot at whoever the asshole is who is telling you this stuff. > > B. > Next time you address a question to me, and I offer you the courtesy of > answering it, I'd expect the courtesy of your e-mailing me back if you have > a problem with my answer.... > > C. > I don't know that Biomarine, or any other rebreather company has you on > payroll or perks, in order for you to help them with advertorial > misinformation and blatant attacks on superior rebreathers, but considering > what I've just read from you, I have told Odyssey that they can NOT treat > you as an unbiased rebreather user, but only as a "mouthpiece" for some > other rebreather company----and that they should treat any correspondance > with you in the same way most of us would with Mike Cochran ! > I consider myself for all rebreather companies. I want a solid, reliable rebreather industry to develop because I want the spare parts and technology. Odyssey ought to cut a licensing deal with a major and retire to the beach. Let them make it into whatever they wanted- read that as "produce the unit". The rebreather industry needs product not the science fiction it has been getting from some companies and some people for the past few years. > D. > I have recieved "zero dollars" from Odyssey and have NO agreement and NO > contract (before, now, or any time in the future) with them to assist their > marketing of image or anything else...I have posted information about them > because I beleive they represent a valuable technology to the members of > this list, and because I found them to be far superior to many much more > well heeled and "big AD Budget" type manufacturers who had waded into the > rebreather market. I like to be on top of "whats Best" because I have an > online dive magazine, and I like "it" to be a resource for divers, meaning, > No one has a better reason to get on the Internet with posts about what they > really believe is best, than do I. ....You could also take this to mean that > I am CLEARLY LESS BIASED about any particular manufacturers than YOU are. > If I sound pissed off, its because I am. > Dan > Dan Volker > SOUTH FLORIDA DIVE JOURNAL > "The Internet magazine for Underwater Photography and mpeg Video" > http://www.florida.net/scuba/dive > 407-683-3592 > >
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