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Jullian sorry about addressing the last post to Neil, In the UK there are 8 active trimix instructors. Based on the number of divers who actually seek training in trimix and the population that is a reasonable number. I know Kevin is planning an IEC later in the year and offers independent training to this level for those who have met the prerequisites I published in the last post. To me it is sad if the only reason someone gets certified as a technical EANx instructor in the Uk is as a step towards trimix. I know that is true of some but I think the majority become tech EANx instructors based on the merits of that program. It is the most productive level of technical certification. Tom You wrote: > >Hi, Tom and all! >apologies for inadvertantly allowing the computer to put Neil's name at the >end, it should of course read'Julian Bottomer' > >I agree that the trimix course has the most potential for misuse in the wrong >hands. >I do however disagree that Tech nitrox is not a stepping stone to trimix. It >is of course a level in itself and the student will not necessarily continue >to trimix, even if he meets the requirements and i am sure we both do not >encourage people into the higher level courses, but it surely is part of the >path, (although not a part to be stepped over lightly). > >I think you are being a bit naive if you think that people reach tech nitrox >instructor do not have in mind to go further. This is certainly the case with >the two UK Tech nitrox instructors about whom this thread originated, and >probably several more. I will suggest that they contact you Tom as they do not >seem to be able to get anywhere in the UK. > >I don't know how many IANTD trimix instructors there are in the UK . I think it >was 3 but it may be down to 2 now, or is it back up to 3 again? There certainly >only seems to be 2 or 3 names that crop up from time to time. > >Best wishes, > >Julian Bottomer (not Neil Kingsbeer this time!) > >In your message dated Tuesday 19, March 1996 you wrote : >> Neil >> To the best of my knowledge, no one is given a carrot of becomming a >> trimix instructor. A trimix instructor is not a HIGHER or LOWERE rating >> it is another venue of technical instruction. We at IANTD feel this >> area has the most poetential os misuse if unqualified persons become >> trimix instructors. >> >> We think the prerequisites are reasonable and that a prudent person who >> seeks this level of competency will find quiet accessiable. >> To become a trimix instructor: >> >> 1.Be certified as either a technical EANx or EANx Wreck or EANx Cave >> instructor(EANx Wreck and Cave or technical EANx plus either cave or >> wreck instructor qualifications)and a trimix diver >> >> 2. Active teaching status with IANTD with at least three years of >> teaching experience >> >> 3. Have taught 6 EANx courses, 3 deep air courses, 3 advanced EANx >> courses, 3 advanced deep air courses, 2 technical deep air courses and >> 3 technical EANx courses >> >> 4. Be recommended by a trimix instructor after having assisted in two >> complete trimix courses >> >> 5. A log of 500 dives including 200 dives deeper than 100 feet and a >> minimum of 40 trimix dives >> >> 6. Be a trimix blender >> >> 7. Attend and complete an IEC >> >> 8. Complete a comphrensive waterskills evaluation >> >> As far as qualifications at other levels all of these are higher >> ratings and afford the instructor the occassion to teach strict >> technical diving programs. A technical EANx instructor program is the >> most productive rating in IANTD and is a program in and of itself. It >> is not a stepping stone to trimix. In the UK per diving captia there >> are more trimix instructors than in any other country including the USA >> and we offer the trimix program several times a year to all who are >> qualified to attend it. >> >> I hope this answere any questions those who are following this thread >> may have. >> >> Also the reason more trimix instructors were not made in Australia >> before was it was not even legal to use trimix gas in most parts of the >> country. Even today it is a debated practice there and until such time >> of its full acceptance being qualified as a trimix instructor offers >> few advantages other than status to the instructor. I have just talked >> to Rob and he informed me that his statement about three mix >> instructors dates back to 19993 and it was due to the reasons stated >> above. Once it is acceptable he plans just as we do to make instructor >> qualifications available to all who are qualified which will still omit >> a lot of wannabe's. >> >> I surley hope that folks becomming technical EANx instructors are doing >> so to teach at that level and not as a step to trimix instruction. It >> is seperate and a strong course in itself. One should grow into mix >> instructor not do jumps. >> >> Again our program is designed to provide quality, comptent, qualified., >> experienced and safe instructors at all levels. This is why the IANTD >> program is the most rigourous of technical training programs, and has >> even been reffered to by some TDI instructors as UDT style training, >> which we take as a complimient as thuis is survival training and >> produces safer and more capable divers and instructors. >> >> >> Tom Mount >> You wrote: >> > >> > >> >--I do of course not wish to encourage a massive proliferation of >> trimix >> >instructors in the UK or elsewhere, i am just criticising the pulling >> up of the >> >ladder after taking a lot of money of some very capable guys. >> >Tom seems to be saying that some people are not suitable, and of >> course this is >> >true, but these people should be TOLD why they cannot be trimix >> instructors, not >> >just subjected to delaying tactics to fend them off after they have >> spent a lot >> >of money on gas blender, nitrox instructor, tech nitrox and instructor >> and >> >trimix diver, along with a few more courses along the way i expect, >> with the >> >false hope planted in their minds that they can make it to the 'top'!! >> > >> >I realise that ANDI of course will quite sensibly not endorse the >> proliferation >> >of trimix instructors. >> > >> >I am aware of the tight profit margins on a properly conducted trimix >> course. >> > >> >Any comments from TDI Australia? >> >Neil Kingsbeer >> > >> >-- >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >> >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. >> > >> >> -- >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >> Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. >> > >-- >Neil Kingsbeer > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. >
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