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Hi, Tom and all! apologies for inadvertantly allowing the computer to put Neil's name at the end, it should of course read'Julian Bottomer' I agree that the trimix course has the most potential for misuse in the wrong hands. I do however disagree that Tech nitrox is not a stepping stone to trimix. It is of course a level in itself and the student will not necessarily continue to trimix, even if he meets the requirements and i am sure we both do not encourage people into the higher level courses, but it surely is part of the path, (although not a part to be stepped over lightly). I think you are being a bit naive if you think that people reach tech nitrox instructor do not have in mind to go further. This is certainly the case with the two UK Tech nitrox instructors about whom this thread originated, and probably several more. I will suggest that they contact you Tom as they do not seem to be able to get anywhere in the UK. I don't know how many IANTD trimix instructors there are in the UK . I think it was 3 but it may be down to 2 now, or is it back up to 3 again? There certainly only seems to be 2 or 3 names that crop up from time to time. Best wishes, Julian Bottomer (not Neil Kingsbeer this time!) In your message dated Tuesday 19, March 1996 you wrote : > Neil > To the best of my knowledge, no one is given a carrot of becomming a > trimix instructor. A trimix instructor is not a HIGHER or LOWERE rating > it is another venue of technical instruction. We at IANTD feel this > area has the most poetential os misuse if unqualified persons become > trimix instructors. > > We think the prerequisites are reasonable and that a prudent person who > seeks this level of competency will find quiet accessiable. > To become a trimix instructor: > > 1.Be certified as either a technical EANx or EANx Wreck or EANx Cave > instructor(EANx Wreck and Cave or technical EANx plus either cave or > wreck instructor qualifications)and a trimix diver > > 2. Active teaching status with IANTD with at least three years of > teaching experience > > 3. Have taught 6 EANx courses, 3 deep air courses, 3 advanced EANx > courses, 3 advanced deep air courses, 2 technical deep air courses and > 3 technical EANx courses > > 4. Be recommended by a trimix instructor after having assisted in two > complete trimix courses > > 5. A log of 500 dives including 200 dives deeper than 100 feet and a > minimum of 40 trimix dives > > 6. Be a trimix blender > > 7. Attend and complete an IEC > > 8. Complete a comphrensive waterskills evaluation > > As far as qualifications at other levels all of these are higher > ratings and afford the instructor the occassion to teach strict > technical diving programs. A technical EANx instructor program is the > most productive rating in IANTD and is a program in and of itself. It > is not a stepping stone to trimix. In the UK per diving captia there > are more trimix instructors than in any other country including the USA > and we offer the trimix program several times a year to all who are > qualified to attend it. > > I hope this answere any questions those who are following this thread > may have. > > Also the reason more trimix instructors were not made in Australia > before was it was not even legal to use trimix gas in most parts of the > country. Even today it is a debated practice there and until such time > of its full acceptance being qualified as a trimix instructor offers > few advantages other than status to the instructor. I have just talked > to Rob and he informed me that his statement about three mix > instructors dates back to 19993 and it was due to the reasons stated > above. Once it is acceptable he plans just as we do to make instructor > qualifications available to all who are qualified which will still omit > a lot of wannabe's. > > I surley hope that folks becomming technical EANx instructors are doing > so to teach at that level and not as a step to trimix instruction. It > is seperate and a strong course in itself. One should grow into mix > instructor not do jumps. > > Again our program is designed to provide quality, comptent, qualified., > experienced and safe instructors at all levels. This is why the IANTD > program is the most rigourous of technical training programs, and has > even been reffered to by some TDI instructors as UDT style training, > which we take as a complimient as thuis is survival training and > produces safer and more capable divers and instructors. > > > Tom Mount > You wrote: > > > > > >--I do of course not wish to encourage a massive proliferation of > trimix > >instructors in the UK or elsewhere, i am just criticising the pulling > up of the > >ladder after taking a lot of money of some very capable guys. > >Tom seems to be saying that some people are not suitable, and of > course this is > >true, but these people should be TOLD why they cannot be trimix > instructors, not > >just subjected to delaying tactics to fend them off after they have > spent a lot > >of money on gas blender, nitrox instructor, tech nitrox and instructor > and > >trimix diver, along with a few more courses along the way i expect, > with the > >false hope planted in their minds that they can make it to the 'top'!! > > > >I realise that ANDI of course will quite sensibly not endorse the > proliferation > >of trimix instructors. > > > >I am aware of the tight profit margins on a properly conducted trimix > course. > > > >Any comments from TDI Australia? > >Neil Kingsbeer > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. > >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. > Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > -- Neil Kingsbeer
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