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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 01:14:43 -0500
From: Carl Heinzl <cgh@ma*.ai*.mi*.ed*>
To: techdiver@terra.net, cavers@ge*.co*
Subject: Cochran

Yes Sir, we (actually it was private email but this is such a big joke
I just had to share the nonsense here)1 have FINALLY heard from the
head weasel himself...  FWIW...

>Return-Path: <mcochran@ne*.co*>
>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:59:14 -0800 (PST)
>From: Mike Cochran <mcochran@ne*.co*>
>Subject: fyi
>To: cgh@ma*.ai*.mi*.ed*
>Cc: r.riggs@ix*.ne*.co*
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

EMAIL TO CARL:

On 25 Feb 96 Carl Heinzl wrote:

>The problem is these idiot equipment manufacturers want you to bet
>your life on something that you're essentially beta testing for
>them... A REAL QA program would show up deficiencies like this, and,
>there are just TOO many complaints about this ONE PARTICULAR brand for
>it to be more than coincidence.  That and their surreptitious
>attitude, unanswered questions certainly doesn't place them high on the
>list of "must buy" scuba items (unless I need a $10k weight belt.)

>>snip

>Well, Carl, I see you are still at it.  You call us "idiot equipment
>manufacturers" which doesn't carry much weight coming from a ne'er-do-
>well student who can't even find a real job.  How do *YOU* know what

I guess Mike doesn't realize that email addresses aren't always what
they seem to be, eh?  You made one serious error here.  I've worked in
the sw business for 17 years now and have delivered many products -
been involved with QA, not much with QC, but a little.  I guess I can
make at least one claim that you can't - "my products work". :^)

>beta testing programs we have?  You don't.  How do *YOU* know what QA
>programs we have?  You don't.  How do *YOU* know what QC programs we
>have?  You don't.  Do you even know the difference between QA and QC?

The lack of QA is obvious - as shown in Bob's profiles.  The problems
in QC are obvious from the damned things shutting down, screwing up
etc.  Seems like you need a new QA director and someon in mfg that
understands QC.

>I doubt it.  Unanswered questions?  We try to answer ALL intelligent
>questions, though there is a limit to our patience.  "Surreptitious

Hmmmm... ok, why didn't you ever perform and post the simulations of
Bob Lings profiles???  That's a simple, straight, to the point
question.  I would STILL like to see them.  Back when this discussion
ensued, I argued WITH Bob - I was on YOUR side - I bet you actually
forgot this little tidbit of information... Lack of information, no
communications, and the continuous barrages from the WetOne really
turned me off - ESPECIALLY the WetOne.

>attitude"?  You should take a few English courses before stringing a
>bunch of words together.  It doesn't make any sense (typical, though).

Call me silly, but, I'd rather make products that WORK than worry
about one sentence in a posting that was written quickly, these are
NOT theses after all...

>While you're at it, take some courses regarding logical thinking, and

Logical Thinking 101:
1) Customer has problem with "life support" equipment.
2) Manufacturer promises to run simulations and post results.
3) Time goes by - no results.

Question:
Who would believe or trust the (now Idiot) Manufacturer?

I know what I would do and that's most likely the same as any sane,
logical person...  Sorry mike, you're not doing too well tonight.
Take an aspirin, it only gets better.

>manners.  We're not high on your "must buy" list?  I sincerely hope we

Manners - we're NOT having a tea party, you're designing and building
LIFE SUPPORT equipment that has a VERY bad track record in the
industry.  I can almost guarantee you that The Cochran line of
computers has been the most shunned line of any piece of dive
equipment EVER!!!

>are not *ANYWHERE* on your list.  We receive TOO many flames from this
>ONE PARTICULAR source (*YOU*) for it to be a coincidence. You should

Never MIND about all the little ones from TONS of other people...

>act responsibly and talk about issues you *DO* know something about
>instead of just blowing smoke.  But then, I guess you couldn't say
>anything.

I RAN Bobs profiles on my Solution simulator.  Either you
a) ran his profiles and found some pretty bad bugs that you obvsiouly
   couldn't disclose
b) didn't bother

Either case, your credibility isn't even in the toilet, it's in the
septic tank right now, having been flushed LONG ago.


>Your name has been added to my notch filter.  Write when you find work.

Was that an attemp at HUMOR :^)

Well, here's a joke for you....

NEMESIS ....... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

-Carl-

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