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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 09:03:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Roderick Farb <rfarb@em*.un*.ed*>
To: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*>
cc: rfarb <rfarb@na*.ne*>, tjm@ea*.ne*, techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: REBREATHERS #3

The entire quotation was not used in the story in AquaCorp. I was asked 
about the degree of complexity of CCR versus OC. I said LEARNING to dive a 
CCR is MORE like learning to fly an airplane in the sense 
that there are more than a couple of gauges and valves to keep track of in 
addition to those devices a diver is familiar with in OC diving. You 
certainly do not need to have the skills of a fighter aircraft pilot in 
order to successfully dive or own a rebreather. Rich, in matters of life 
support, I've noticed that some individuals (not you) who have unique skills 
and equipment, OFTEN overemphasize the degree of difficulty in developing 
the skills and using the equipment because it enhances their status as 
being one of the few who can do it. You see this in the general diving 
and in the tech. community and certainly see it in the rebreather marketplace.
Not only that, fear of the unknown often exagerates and distorts reality 
for the novice. Some may take advantage of both components to market 
rebreathers at exorbitantly high prices, to require very expensive training 
before purchase and to require mandatory periodic expensive factory 
refurbishing of the units- when in fact none of these need be. There 
is no argument that safer is better but there is no doubt that the 
concept has often been distorted to gain market share of products inside 
and outside of the diving industry. There is no question that rebreathers 
are more complex life support than OC scuba. They do require good units, 
competent training and regular use to become and maintain proficiency-JUST 
LIKE OC SCUBA. With my personal rebreather, I am as comfortable diving it 
after a months layoff as I am after diving it regularly for days. The 
same is true for me on OC. And I am not unique in this. What I gather 
from all of your excellent posts on rebreathers and on the CisLunar is 
that the Cis Lunar is vastly different in complexity than the BioMarine 
system (I have never used the Cis and I am sorry that I didn't have the 
time to do it in New Orleans when you offered) and as such requires 
constant training to maintain competency even for the brightest of 
divers. I suggest that this factor, the extremely high cost of the unit, 
the extremely high cost of training, the mandatory retraining schedule, 
the mandatory factory recall and the apparent complexity of the unit 
takes the CisLunar of reach of ordinary tech divers and puts it in out 
there for only those good enough to be fighter pilots. Given that 
scenario, it is no wonder that the CisLunar- as a production unit for 
tech divers- has achieved distinction as the longest running science 
fiction project in the history of diving. There is no question that on 
paper it is a highly desirable unit for some applications. Recreational 
tech diving is not one of them. Rod

On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Richard Pyle wrote:

> 
> > There is no connection between the between the skills needed to fly 
> > fighter aircraft and diving a rebreather.
> 
> 	-Rod Farb, Techdiver, 11 Feb 1996
> 
> "Learning to dive a closed circuit rebreather is more like learning to 
> fly an airplane than to open circuit diving lessons."
> 
> 	-Rod Farb, AquaCorps: WRECKERS, p. 70, January 1995.
> 
> Well...where do you stand? Is it like flying an airplane or not? ;-)
> 
> Rod,
> 	What's the longest period of time you've gone without diving the 
> 'breather?  When you got back in the water again, were you just as 
> comfortable as you were on the last dive you made before the hiatus?
> 
> Rich
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