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> > Safety is superior in the Odyssey because it does not rely on electronics > which will potentially fail, and in so doing allow a diver to become hypoxic > should there be a gas addition failure. give us all a break.. the greatest danger yet to be seen in any rebreather is the LACK of an indication of what you are breathing and when. period. we all know that there have been hypoxic events with the rbc, and there will be more (if they indeed make the market), just like the drager. been there, done that, seen it happen, will see it again.. unfortunately. > > Mike, step back and think for a second. We are having this conversation on a > technical diving list. People here dive multiple gases on typical dives. If > you have come up with a dive computer that senses me starting with air, > switching to tri-mix at 130 feet, tracks my nitrogen and helium saturation > on my 275 foot dive, figures the offgassing as I return to 150 where I > switch back to Nitrox , begins to figure counter diffusion and offgasing > with this switch, alows an air break at 50 feet for 15 minutes, and then > nitrox for next few stops, followed by pure O2 at 10 feet----If you have > come up with a computer that will do all this, how reliable is it, and how > many of us do you expect will trust it...The best divers I know, the guys > who go further and deeper into caves than ANYONE else, believe the ONLY safe > way to do technical exposures is with a pre-calculated profile and a bottom > timer and depth gauge....They don't trust ANY computer---why do you think > that is? doesnt mean that is right, we were diving with a computer like the one you discribed four years ago. what makes you think there isn't one out there today. they used to say the same thing about pressure guages and bcds. > > Mike, I actually like what you are doing with computer technology, and I > think some day you will have the best on the market---presently you do have > the best features, by a good margin, and an awesome computer for advanced > recreational divers, but for tech diving the reliability issue prevents its > use as anything but a novelty---not to mention we may frequently use three > or more gas mixtures on a dive, this being beyond the scope of any dive > computer I have heard of. again, belive it or not, we used a computer four years ago that did just that, care to comment tom?, who knows what is out there right now. we had a three hour conversation with the uwatek principals <last> dema show and they admitted to have worked on such an item.. just that the market was not ready for it (and could not support it). i think the dive tracker could acutally do any and all of the above if programed. (what about it rob, come on kevin.. you out there... tell em the truth, tell em what brought you to iantd and techdiving). > I don't want to get in to a conversation with you that will hurt your > marketing, but I will respond with what I believe is the safest message for > other people to hear. myself.. i think it's about time someone started telling the truth about what is really going on. and to what end (if anyone can really figure that out, seems like people have their own adgendas for who knows what reason). i thnk mike is on the right track here, he's in a sticky position but still is trying to do the right thing (as any true texan would :-) ). you guys really want to know what's up call tracy robinette, or better yet get him on the list.. he has access. course, alot of people dont want you to know the truth. huh, can't blame em... they have alot to loose.. but at what cost. dp
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