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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 96 09:53:41
From: "DYER, BILL" <BILL.DYER@mi*.co*.uk*>
To: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: double bags


Pat Moran writes:

Just out of curiousity...
Has anyone ever experienced a seam blowout in the bladder of a backmounted 
BC in say the last 10 years (reasonable past)? I am not asking this to be 
sarcastic. I really would like to know if this can and does happen. I was 
under this impression (possibly misinformed) that the heat seal is as 
strong , or stronger, than the actual bladder material (kinda like a 
well glued wetsuit seam).

SNIP>

I have never heard of a bladder seam blowing out without the outer bag tearing
first.  I would have thought that the seam would be nearly as strong as the
material itself, but neither is adequate without the support of the outer bag.

Worst case would be a bolt for the surface, where the diver inflates rapidly
from a 0.4 litre backup cylinder commonly used in the UK.  Here, 200 bar is
opened directly onto the bag, and the air expands on the way up.
I heard that AP Valves (Buddy) had to put in an extra pressure relief valve in
to their "Commandos" to prevent bursting in this situation.  (They also offer
a 300 bar backup cylinder as an option).

I assume that all manufacturers build their BCs strong enough to cope with a 
200 bar inflation, unless they specifically exclude the use of such devices
ie LP Direct Feed only.

On the point of redundancy, my drysuit is my backup, and I would only consider
an extra bag for providing extra suface floatation in heavy seas.

Bill.Dyer@mi*.co*.uk*

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