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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:43:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Bob Favorite <rwfavorite@uc*.ed*>
To: w wittman <wwittman@we*.co*>
cc: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Long Hose Methods
On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, w wittman wrote:

> At 7:19 PM 1/5/96, Bob Favorite wrote:
> 
> > Any diver in an out of air situation is most likely to go
> > for the reg in your mouth so why not have it on the long hose?
> 
> and...
> 
> 
> > ...If someone grabs your octo when they (sic)
> > are out of air and don't realize it is turned off they (sic) are going to be
> > very unhappy!!
> 
> 
> is this consistent?
> 
> if an out of air diver is ALWAYS going to grab the reg in your mouth, then
> why is it problematic to have your secondary reg turned off?
> 
> 
> i simply don't buy the first statement and have never seen any data
> supporting the assertion that out of air divers will "usually", let alone
> "always", go for the "working" regulator in your mouth
> in my opinion, this means these divers were poorly trained and, according
> to george, no one should be diving with them <g>
> 

point taken.  I was considering each case seperately ( which you deleted 
in your reply).  I'm sorry noone has done a study on this so you can have 
"data".  Do you have trouble buying that divers get wet in the water?  I 
haven't seen any data regarding this?  Not all people keep their octo in 
the same place...Most keep their main reg in their mouth! When someone is 
out of air they go for the quick fix.  Of course if they run out of air I 
would have to say they are poorly trained and I wouldn't be diving with 
them...So why do I even bother with this shit?  Sorry but training has 
a tendency to go out the window when you are at 200ft and a reg full of air 
is in front of your face.  
 
                         Bob Favorite RVT          
UC Davis VMTH              UC Davis SCUBA          The Octopus' Garden
VMD 490 Instructor          safety diver               safety diver

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