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At 9:43 PM 1/5/96, Bob Favorite wrote: > > point taken. I was considering each case seperately ( which you deleted > in your reply). I'm sorry noone has done a study on this so you can have > "data". Do you have trouble buying that divers get wet in the water? I > haven't seen any data regarding this? Not all people keep their octo in > the same place...Most keep their main reg in their mouth! When someone is > out of air they go for the quick fix. Of course if they run out of air I > would have to say they are poorly trained and I wouldn't be diving with > them...So why do I even bother with this shit? Sorry but training has > a tendency to go out the window when you are at 200ft and a reg full of air > is in front of your face. > bollocks if training "goes out the window" in emergencies all training would be pointless if you think all training IS pointless you should stop instructing and could save a great deal of space in your signature at the end of emails <g> the reason to be prepared to share air (or gas) is that systems DO fail not that one should expect a partner to just "run out" but again you say "When someone is out of air they (sic) go for the quick fix." and again i say "says WHO?" George has said many times that he and his team all know that they breathe the long hose and that they intend to hand off that reg in an emergency that is NOT the same as saying they expect to be mugged by a panicky out-of-gas buddy! it's an AGREEMENT between two trained partners as to what procedure to follow well trained divers keep their octopus reg in the triangle between their hips and throat...and in plain sight well trained divers know to discuss gas sharing AHEAD of time with their partners and agree on methods well trained divers know where their source of backup gas is...whether it's in their redundant supply or with their buddies...(and if the latter they know they are within reasonable distance to REACH that buddy) training by definition means practise....i can't 'train' for a marathon by learning to run in a course only...i have to also PRACTISE running until i am proficient this translates to practising out of gas drills as well so that you DON'T lunge for the first regulator you see in a blind panic i think there are some compelling arguments as to why to breathe the long hose (most compelling for ME being the ease of stowing after sharing), but the factoid that the reg in my mouth is the only one my partner will swipe is just not one of them by the way ...if "you are at 200 ft" on AIR you probably need to reassess your diving habits anyway w2
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