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To: Andy Schmidt <73467.2574@co*.co*>
From: ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed* (Ken Sallot)
Subject: Re: Double Talk (i.e. equipment redundancy)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:54:11
cc: techdiver@terra.net
In article <30EAECDA.7243@co*.co*> Andy Schmidt <73467.2574@co*.co*>
writes:

>Kevin-Neil Klop wrote:

>>> If your mask comes off and you lose it, you can still see, and you're only
going to turn your dive right then anyhow. <<

>Someone on this message thread suggested to use visual jumps to 
>elmininate carrying jump reels. I have found it VERY difficult 
>to make out something as thin as a line at a few feet distance 
>if I don't wear my mask. 

Excuse me, I said that. I also said "T the line in or come back later with a 
gap reel". I was trying to make a point of a "well there's this really cool 
gap possibly" and why you shouldn't carry 20 gap reels into a cave if you're 
only planning one gap. I was not suggesting to use visual gaps, rather I was 
suggesting not carrying 20 gap reels when you are not planning 20 jumps. I 
don't know why I bother, the cave doesn't get interesting until you're about 
3000' out and then everything's T'd anyway.

>So if you plan visual jumps, it might be advisable to consider 
>the "lost mask" like a "lights-out" scenario. Unless you plan to 
>rely entirely on your buddy.

I never said "plan visual jumps". If you "plan a visual jump" why not just 
bring the reel ahead of time. I was talking about a situation where there was 
an unplanned new jump that you want to check out, options 1) T the jump using 
your safety line, 2) visual jump, 3) come back later with a jump reel. 
It's part of your risk assessment. I'll probably do 1 or 2 depending.

If you're worried about breaking your mask on a cave dive then you're probably 
worrying about too many other things as well to enjoy yourself on the dive at 
all. Why not just sell the gear and go see a good hockey game, you won't hurt 
yourself, and it'll cost less.


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