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You wrote: > >Dear George: > >I had a look on CompuServe Scuba Forum for some strokery as you suggested. The >discussions/arguments on argon for suit inflation were interesting. Like one of >those guys that was sniping at you, I didn't see what you were especially >offended by, however, I didn't have to look far to find something. > >What did you think about all of the advice given to help individuals O2 clean >their own cylinders and valves? It reminds me of conversations regarding O2 >cleaning that I had heard back in 1989-1990: > >Q: How do I O2 clean a tank and valve? >A: Take it apart, clean all of the contaminates out, reassemble with viton >o-rings and oxygen compatible grease. > >Q: Where can I find viton o-rings and oxygen grease? >A: I don't know but if you can't find the o-rings, just clean the old ones real >good. If you can't find the grease, just put everything together dry. > >Q: What do you use to clean the parts? >A: Select from one of the following: > Freon 113 (get a friend that works in electronics or defense industries >to > steal it for you) > 1,1,1 Trichloroethane (get it at the paint store) > Trichloroethylene > 409, Fantastik, Simple Green > Real Hot Water > Dawn > Paint Thinner (I shit you not) > >This, or course, is not what they were saying on CompuServe, but I was reminded >of the days when similar conversations took place. I advised the individual who >posted the original question to utilize the services of a technical dive shop. >We (manufacturers and dive stores) have been trying to get this work done only >at certified facilities for safety oriented, practical, and business reasons. > >Happy New Year, >C. Randy Bohrer, President >Underwater Applications Corp > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > > Hi, I find this a very noteable post with regards to the points & in particular circular arguments it brings. There is no question that any open forum will be replete will information, bad information, etc. We did a paper on the topic (Clark & Atikkan, IQ 92 Proceeding). Thus it is not surprising that truisms become truths, myths become facts & the generalizations propagated in dive classes, by dive shop clerks as well as diving 'magazine' take hold as Neptune's apostle truth. What defence have we - education. That is, instead of shying away from Strokeserve & other forums, agencies of lesser repute & ruminating as to how great we are, delve into those, write, say or more precisely TEACH. What, however, is equally catching in Randy's post is the last paragraph, where the element of the ogre, governmental controls appears as shop controls. He does freely admit that there is a financial advantage to such a de facto monopoly, which any enterprise would welcome. Eliminate the 'do it yourselfer' because that particular job (changing O-rings, greasing equipment!!) requires the stamp of approval of a shop person. Irrespective of the fact that the guy doing this may be a mecahnic, a technician, an engineer whatever their particular training, under the guise of safety, with that financial end thrown in, it is subservient to the shop. Now we have to have some means of quality assurance at those shops. A means of assuring that Joe Shopclerk, fresh out of 11th grade, on his 1st summer job, is aware of the difference between those greases & was not thinking about his Saturday night date when using the lubricant. So how about a state agency to test & certify them. We have it for MD's, Vets. Social Workers, why not for Oxygen Cleaners. No problem with qualfied enterprises earning what they deserve. The problem is the a cartel being set up under the guise of safety. This in itself is regulation by entities of dubious qualifications, with the spectre of government regulation omnipresent. Happy New Year Esat Atikkan
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