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   Phil, Rich Pyle? How would he know anything was real or fake
when it applied to , let's say cave diving? You need to start your
own list, and you can then screen people out, and have whatever
discussion you want. It is really easy to do. Do you want me to
send you some software? I can give you the phone number of some
providers who would love the business. 

    What you really mean to say is that you want a list where
everyone agress with YOUR preconceptions. Once you find out the
truth, you will then want another list. As you then get good
at this, you will still want another. If you really get hot,
you end up like Bill Deans or Mike Madden - unwilliing to 
listen to a bunch of "oscar meyers", like yourself, and get
off of the lists entirely.

     Youu need to spend more time diving, and less time whinning. -G

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