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Tod,

From a dry caver stand point, the NSS is a great organization. They have
done a lot for DRY caving in the US and supporting it will only do good
regarding DRY caving.

However, on the WET side of the story, the CDS (at least nowadays) is not up
to the rest of the NSS "name".

I am a dry caver, have been down there for more than 10 years in a lot of
leading survey projects in my country and when time arrived for cave diving
instruction, I went to GUE.

If you want a dry caving top organization, go for NSS. If you want a cave
diving top agency, go to GUE.

Danilo


----- Original Message -----
From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: <TodRice@ao*.co*>; <mikebruic@di*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 9:41 PM
Subject: RE: cave course


> Tod, if you want to see what the policies of the NSS are, go look at the
> minutes of the BOD meetings in their UWS magazine - the big issues are
what
> booze to serve at the "socials", who to fuck with in the WKPP, and what to
> do about members of the BOD who get on Cavers and call the WKPP Director a
> "faggot" using a fake account.
>
> This orgaization is hypocrisy in action, and it needs to be avoided until
it
> can get cleaned up. It is a dumb red neck instructors' club with no good
> intentions what so ever.
>
> Last I looked they had three good people on the BOD and four pieces of
shit.
> The shit votes as a block, the instructors run the show. It is a "grotto"
of
> the NSS, and is about as much like the NSS as the Klan is to the NAACP.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TodRice@ao*.co* [mailto:TodRice@ao*.co*]
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 6:43 PM
> To: mikebruic@di*.co*; trey@ne*.co*; cavers@cavers.com
> Subject: Re: cave course
>
>
> Mike, Thank you for the response.
>
> I thought when I joined the NSS that I was joining a good non-profit
> organization. They seem to have good policies were caves are concerned.
>  I guess maybe I have been misinformed and need to look for other options.
>
> Thanks for the info
>

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