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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>,
     "Scott Landon"
Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE fact vs dilemina
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:25:36 -0400
Tom, why bother actually diving - she could just lie about it like Jill did
at Wakulla? You know, when she claimed she went 10 grand in 5 grand worth of
cave, and when she called it a "world's record".

Is this the same Heinerth that is bragging about certifying the youngest
overhead diver ever?

Listen if Jill wants to send somebody to the gym, she needs to start with
that sack of jello she calls her husband. That guy looks like he is
pregnant.

You people give "hypocrite" a new meaning.


----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE fact vs dilemina


> Tom,
>
> This can be forwarded to the list since it represents the accurate
picture:
>
> The student at Little River under private instruction from Paul Heinerth
was
> "interested" in the possibility of cave training and diving double tanks.
> She
> is very petite, but 25 years old. She did an orientation dive in the open
> water
> at Little River on the double tanks and some preliminary cavern swims with
a
> reel down to the permanent guideline and back a couple of times. She
carried
> her own doubles up and down the steps at Little River and with the
guidnace
> of
> her instructor and fiance chose to delay continued training until she had
an
> opportunity to spend some time at the gym preparing to carry double tanks.
> She
> was quite sore after the day's activities.
> I hope everyone recalls how challenging it can be when starting anything
new
> in
> life. Sometimes we need a "taste" to see how much we have to learn. After
a
> discovery experience with a trained and sensitive instructor, sometimes
> individuals can then have a better appreciation for the preparation that
> they
> will need before continuing dive training.
> Everyone deserves to have the chance to learn and be a "guppie." Most of
the
> divers on this list will likely recall less than graceful times in their
> past.
> When new divers are nurtured, they often blossom into wonderful, talented
> and
> carfeul technical divers. Sometimes they don't. We all deserve a right to
> try.
>
> Jill Heinerth
>
> Tom Mount wrote:
>
> > Jill
> > Thanks I'm not on the list either but they copy stuff like this to me,
> > Imagined it would be something like that
> >
> > May I forward this to the list as some who read do not know better
>
> Tom Mount
> CEO IAND Inc / IANTD
> TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*
> Please note my new eMail address
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; Scott Landon
> <js_landon@ho*.co*>
> Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:37 AM
> Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
>
>
> > Who was it that carried this 12 year old girl's double 95's to the water
> at
> > Little River, her "motha"?  Or was the girl 10? Show me the cavern at
> little
> > river ( all 20 feet of it ) and then tell me why the doubles were used
for
> a
> > "single tank" course, and then the question I really have: Tom, why is
it
> > that whenever real bullshit show up, your name is all over it, and the
> > Heinerths are right there as well? Why is it that you can give a
straight
> > answer to a question?
> >
> > I've got news for you , pal. Our sport is not here for you to screw up
and
> > try to extricate a buck out of. You have clowns like Garret Wineberg
> > teaching open water while on a rebreather, and now this. What next?
> >
> > 10 dives and 12 years old - Bravo, Tom, you've hit a new low.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> > To: Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>; <trey@ne*.co*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> >
> >
> >
>
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