BULLSHIT

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
To: Jill Heinerth <heinerth@gt*.ne*>; Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>;
Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>; a n <techdiver@aq*.co*>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE fact vs dilemina


> No it is something you do not understand it is the truth
>
> By the way yes we do have an overhead course for 12 year olds cavern not
> cave and not intro cave.They have to do it with their guardian and dive
with
> the guardian who is most likely the parents or if the legal guardian
someone
> they trust a lot.
>
> Would you rather that  the parents just take their kids on these dives
with
> no training because they do when not given the ability to have them
trained.
> and they are kept on OW gear. For many in central Florida and other
similar
> areas there is little option for diving if they do no go into a cavern
>
> I think you will find IANTD was not the first to offer this program and it
> will not be the last. We usually lead in this case we followed but better
> trained than just following the parents. No they cannot dive unsupervised,
> yes we think this will prevent accidents. and it has been in the standards
> for many years it is not new.
>
> Tom Mount
> CEO IAND Inc / IANTD
> TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*
> Please note my new eMail address
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; Scott Landon
> <js_landon@ho*.co*>; <heinerth@gt*.ne*>
> Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE fact vs dilemina
>
>
> > Tom, is this from that lying bitch who said she went 10 grand at Wakulla
,
> > "World Record Jill"? Oh, I believe her. We all do. Tell her to get a new
> set
> > of wheels for her mobile home and drag it  to Arkansas with the rest of
> the
> > liars.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> > To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 3:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE fact vs dilemina
> >
> >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > This can be forwarded to the list since it represents the accurate
> > picture:
> > >
> > > The student at Little River under private instruction from Paul
Heinerth
> > was
> > > "interested" in the possibility of cave training and diving double
> tanks.
> > > She
> > > is very petite, but 25 years old. She did an orientation dive in the
> open
> > > water
> > > at Little River on the double tanks and some preliminary cavern swims
> with
> > a
> > > reel down to the permanent guideline and back a couple of times. She
> > carried
> > > her own doubles up and down the steps at Little River and with the
> > guidnace
> > > of
> > > her instructor and fiance chose to delay continued training until she
> had
> > an
> > > opportunity to spend some time at the gym preparing to carry double
> tanks.
> > > She
> > > was quite sore after the day's activities.
> > > I hope everyone recalls how challenging it can be when starting
anything
> > new
> > > in
> > > life. Sometimes we need a "taste" to see how much we have to learn.
> After
> > a
> > > discovery experience with a trained and sensitive instructor,
sometimes
> > > individuals can then have a better appreciation for the preparation
that
> > > they
> > > will need before continuing dive training.
> > > Everyone deserves to have the chance to learn and be a "guppie." Most
of
> > the
> > > divers on this list will likely recall less than graceful times in
their
> > > past.
> > > When new divers are nurtured, they often blossom into wonderful,
> talented
> > > and
> > > carfeul technical divers. Sometimes they don't. We all deserve a right
> to
> > > try.
> > >
> > > Jill Heinerth
> > >
> > > Tom Mount wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jill
> > > > Thanks I'm not on the list either but they copy stuff like this to
me,
> > > > Imagined it would be something like that
> > > >
> > > > May I forward this to the list as some who read do not know better
> > >
> > > Tom Mount
> > > CEO IAND Inc / IANTD
> > > TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*
> > > Please note my new eMail address
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; Scott Landon
> > > <js_landon@ho*.co*>
> > > Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:37 AM
> > > Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> > >
> > >
> > > > Who was it that carried this 12 year old girl's double 95's to the
> water
> > > at
> > > > Little River, her "motha"?  Or was the girl 10? Show me the cavern
at
> > > little
> > > > river ( all 20 feet of it ) and then tell me why the doubles were
used
> > for
> > > a
> > > > "single tank" course, and then the question I really have: Tom, why
is
> > it
> > > > that whenever real bullshit show up, your name is all over it, and
the
> > > > Heinerths are right there as well? Why is it that you can give a
> > straight
> > > > answer to a question?
> > > >
> > > > I've got news for you , pal. Our sport is not here for you to screw
up
> > and
> > > > try to extricate a buck out of. You have clowns like Garret Wineberg
> > > > teaching open water while on a rebreather, and now this. What next?
> > > >
> > > > 10 dives and 12 years old - Bravo, Tom, you've hit a new low.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> > > > To: Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>; <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > > Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:30 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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