Tom, too bad I did not know your kid 16 years ago when I did coke, I could
have gotten a discount. It he still out of prison on parole, or is that not
discussed now that he works for IANTD?

What is with the Prozac comment , Tom? You are really reaching. I fell like
I need Prozac when I see what you have done to diving, and I sure felt like
I needed some the day I had to retrieve Jane Ornstein from the bottom of the
ocean after she died because of your agency, or when I had to sit in Palm
Beach Court and watch Marge cry while I had to testify as to why her husband
should be declared legally dead from one of your IANTD clusterfucks, or when
I see this shit about 12 year olds with ten dives overhead diving, you money
grubbing , unscrupulous, lying ,cowardly never-been moron.

Nothing but mediocrity and bullshit come out of you and your organization -
nothing, and it is all about money, and all about talking and never doing ,
and now your have your little panties in a wad and are howling like the
idiot that you are because your piss poor judgment is being questioned.
Luckily , there are now other training agencies so you no longer can make
instructors go along with your mindless bullshit - they now have a few
choices.

 You have surrounded yourself with the worst of the worst and the most
pathetic, the biggest liars  ( like "World Record Jill ) , and the biggest
losers, do nothings, and pretenders in the game, created in your image , the
great Tom "Mouth" , so named by Sheck Exley because you are all talk and no
action and have been that way since you were 30 years old. A nobody from
nowhere dive instructor who never did anything but yap.

You are ruining our sport, and you will be stopped . By whom? By your own
stupid self. By the way,this is really a classic from you, you dumb fuck.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 (25)YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE


What child,  this is the person you thought was a child at 25 years old Gee
George guess  at your age the young girls really look young to you, although
I'm much older I can still tell a 12 year old from a 25 year old must be all
that coke you keep bragging about having done in bygone days

No wonder some of your people call  you Mr. MaGoo, guess to many deep
dives(or the coke)

It is easy to see when you are lying either your keyboard is in action or
your lips are moving, or you are threatening someone or bragging that you
will suck their dicks at Macys if you ever do something such as dive a
rebreather , so how many have you sucked since you started diving
rebreathers.

Generally I just hit delete on your pitiful post and the reason that you do
not get responses from others is they are to busy trying to figure how
anyone could even pretend to take anything serious that a psychotic maniac
like you could say in the first place.

You need to up your Prozac as you are really losing it (George) Mr. MaGoo,
What's the matter cannot get enough people to support you to dive at Wakulla
oh boo hoo,


Tom Mount
CEO IAND Inc / IANTD
TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*
Please note my new eMail address
----- Original Message -----
From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; Scott Landon
<js_landon@ho*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 (25)YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE


> Tom, you are too much - putting out one horror story to deny another. This
> is like " I was NOT buggering the dog, it was the cat". The FACT is you
have
> a bragging piece out there about "the youngest ever overhead diver"
trained
> by that fat slob Heinerth. So this case was just a hopelessly unqualified
> diver, not a child, the "record" was the child. Good going - the usual
> idiots at work. OR wait a minute, was this the mother of the child that
you
> had to train so she could go with the child according to your "standards"
or
> what?
>
> How am I supposed to keep track of the bullshit you create? It is all so
> ridiculous to me that I can not distinguish one dumb ass story from
another,
> and they are all so horrific and stupid that I have gotten used to
believing
> anything I hear about you and IANTD, and certainly there is nothing that
the
> Hienerrths could do that would surprise me at all.
>
> Tom, I can not waste my time reading your stuff or that your web page or
> IANTD "journal", so I have to rely on your members' reports. They are as
> horrified as we are by this new direction you have taken. In fact, not one
> of your thousands of instructors is stepping up and supporting this stuff
> publicly.
>
> Why is that? Where is that cc list of yours ( the who's not who of diving)
> that you always send out when you get into one of these discussions. Bring
> that on out so we can all get a huge laugh. I love that list. I actually
> laugh out loud when I see that. Maybe you could get that idiot from Brazil
> who calls me "Johnny Holmes" to come out and support it, you know the one
> who told us that he could not possibly be narced at 375 on air - get that
> dumb fuck out here to support your child program.
>
>
> From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>
> Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 (25)YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
>
>
> > I checked with Paul and Jill on the 12 yeard old at LR and as usual with
> you
> > guys the real story is different, but that has never mattered to you but
> for
> > those truly interested read below
> >
> >
> > Give me a break....
> >
> > That is hilarious.
> >
> > Yes, it is true that Paul had a student at Little River last week and
that
> > she
> > is interested in pursuing cave diving instruction but that is about
it....
> >
> > The student is 25 years old, but very petite (around 100 pounds). She
was
> > trying doubles for the first time in the large open water area and the
> mouth
> > of
> > the CAVERN. She was wearing double HP 80 cylinders and after her
> orientation
> > decided that she is not ready for doubles yet.
> >
> > I have no doubt that eventually she will work out in the gym enough to
> > manage
> > the equipment, but sometimes we just have to allow people try to let
them
> > know
> > that they need to take baby steps. She was in good hands in a PRIVATE
> > instruction situation with her instructor Paul and her fiancé (who is a
> > fully
> > certified cave and trimix diver).
> >
> > Jill
> >
> > Tom Mount
> > CEO IAND Inc / IANTD
> > TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*
> > Please note my new eMail address
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> > To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; Scott Landon
> > <js_landon@ho*.co*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> >
> >
> > > Who was it that carried this 12 year old girl's double 95's to the
water
> > at
> > > Little River, her "motha"?  Or was the girl 10? Show me the cavern at
> > little
> > > river ( all 20 feet of it ) and then tell me why the doubles were used
> for
> > a
> > > "single tank" course, and then the question I really have: Tom, why is
> it
> > > that whenever real bullshit show up, your name is all over it, and the
> > > Heinerths are right there as well? Why is it that you can give a
> straight
> > > answer to a question?
> > >
> > > I've got news for you , pal. Our sport is not here for you to screw up
> and
> > > try to extricate a buck out of. You have clowns like Garret Wineberg
> > > teaching open water while on a rebreather, and now this. What next?
> > >
> > > 10 dives and 12 years old - Bravo, Tom, you've hit a new low.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> > > To: Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>; <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:30 AM
> > > Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> > >
> > >
> > > > Over head environment is not cave it is a single cylinder course and
> the
> > > > guardians take the course with the student
> > > >
> > > > Tom Mount
> > > > CEO IAND Inc / IANTD
> > > > TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*
> > > > Please note my new eMail address
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>
> > > > To: <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>; <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > > Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:26 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > okay, tom, then what the fuck is this from your website.  12 years
> old
> > > > right
> > > > > there in black and white.  you sound like clinton trying to argue
> the
> > > > > difference between cavern/wreck penetration and cave diving.  12
> year
> > > olds
> > > > > have no business doing anything on scuba other than 30-40 reef
dives
> > > with
> > > > > their parents.  you must just enjoy lawsuits.
> > > > >
> > > > > Overhead Environment Diver and EANx Overhead Environment Diver
> > > > >
> > > > > Purpose
> > > > > This Program is designed to develop wreck and cavern diving skills
> > > within
> > > > > the limits of light penetration and to insure that divers are
aware
> of
> > > > > self-responsibility and capable of risk management in overhead
> > > > environments.
> > > > > The Program may be taught using either air or EANx.
> > > > > If combined with the IANTD EANx Diver Program, or if the student
is
> > > > already
> > > > > qualified as an IANTD EANx Diver, the student may use a mixture of
> > EANx
> > > in
> > > > > the range of 21% through 40% oxygen.
> > > > > If combined with the IANTD Advanced EANx Diver Program, or if the
> > > student
> > > > is
> > > > > already qualified as an IANTD Advanced EANx Diver, the student may
> use
> > a
> > > > > mixture of EANx in the range of 21% through 40% oxygen as a dive
> gas,
> > > and
> > > > > safety or required decompression stops may involve EANx mixtures
of
> up
> > > to
> > > > > 50% oxygen.
> > > > > Prerequisites
> > > > > Must be qualified as an IANTD Advanced Open Water Diver or
> equivalent.
> > > > > Must provide proof of a minimum of 10 logged dives.
> > > > > Must be a minimum of 15 years of age with a parent or guardian
> > > > > authorization, or a minimum of 12 years of age for Junior Diver
> > > > > qualification, or a minimum of 18 years of age without guardian
> > > approval.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> > > > > >Reply-To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> > > > > >To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > > > >CC: <techdiver@aq*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> > > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:28:03 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >IANTD does not have acourse to teach 12 year olds to cave dive
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Cave Diver and Technical Cave Diver
> > > > > >.
> > > > > >B. Prerequisites
> > > > > >1. If entering through modular route, must be qualified as
> > Introductory
> > > > > >Cave
> > > > > >Diver with proof of a minimum of 50 logged dives. If taking the
> > course
> > > on
> > > > a
> > > > > >rebreather must have 35 dives logged on the rebreather
> > > > > >2. To enter Technical Cave (Technical Diver) in addition to
#1,must
> > be
> > > > > >qualified as an IANTD EANx or Advanced EANx Diver, or equivalent.
> > > > > >3. Must be a minimum of 18 years of age.
> > > > > >OR, if being accepted in the Program based on equivalent
> experience:
> > > > > >4. Must be qualified as Advanced Open Water Diver or equivalent.
> > > > > >5. Must provide proof of a minimum of 100 dives.
> > > > > >6. Must be a minimum of 18 years of age.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Tom Mount
> > > > > >CEO IAND Inc / IANTD
> > > > > >TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*
> > > > > >Please note my new eMail address
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > > > >To: <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>
> > > > > >Cc: <techdiver@aq*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 6:33 AM
> > > > > >Subject: Fw: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > > > > > To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
> > > > > > > Cc: Tech Diver <techdiver@aq*.co*>; Cavers List
> > > > <cavers@cavers.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 6:55 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: TEACHING 12 YEAR OLDS TO CAVE DIVE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tom, somebody has started a rumor that IANTD has a
> > > > > > > > new course which teaches 12 year olds to cave dive.
> > > > > > > > Could you please dispel this before some other
> > > > > > > > idiots out there , like CDS , NACD or TDI,  decide
> > > > > > > > they are "missing a few bucks here"  and decide to
> > > > > > > > do the same thing?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You must go crazy with all of the really stupid shit
> > > > > > > > that people attribute to you on these lists - the
> > > > > > > > real story is sick enough by itself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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