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Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 08:33:06 -0400
From: "Erik C. Schmidt" <cavedivr@uf*.ed*>
To: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: For Sale: 1 AL80 Stage Bottle
Sorry to everyone for all this junk mail.  I was having a private discussion
with
Al that he decided to make public.  I try to have the courtesy to keep my
private
conversations private, as they should be.  Hopefully this will be the last that
you hear out of us (him).

Again, sorry for wasting your time.  We'll try to keep Al's cage locked up a
little tighter from now on and I think we may need to increase his dosage a bit
as
well.

-Erik


AKimbrel@ao*.co* wrote:

> 1 I'm not from Jersey Never lived or been there. 2 YOU e-mailed me privately,
> I'll post the letter if you like.                          3  blow it out
> your @#$ till your nose bleeds.
> Al
> I guess that means your not happy, E.S.? Don't expect another reply you baby.
>
> In a message dated 6/1/00 7:49:51 AM Central Daylight Time, cavedivr@uf*.ed*
> writes:
>
> <<
>  You see, the problem here is that this goober has been privately 'yelling at
> me'
>  for 'daring' to try to sell a used stage bottle for $100.  Why this is his
>  problem I'll never know.  Nothing better to do - needs a life I suppose.  He
> says
>  I'm a problem because I'm 'trying to rip people off' by selling it for so
> much.
>  (BTW - I've never done business with him, met him, or anything)  Hell, he
> can git
>  'em fer $100 brand spankin' new up thar in Jersey.  Well guess what Alvin, my
>  main man, I choose to live in Florida, not Jersey.
>
>  I had the audacity to explain to him, again in private, that the cost of a
>  properly rigged stage bottle (with stainless bolt snaps from EE) certainly
> makes
>  $100 a reasonable price for a used one in good shape.  Guess what - if you
> don't
>  like the price...  don't buy it!  Yes, it really is that simple!  For you,
>  obviously, $100 is too high a price.  For many others $100 is very
> reasonable.
>  Please see e-bay where people routinely pay $120 for used tanks with NO
> rigging
>  at all.
>
>  Al, you are clearly the type of person who would jump up and down in the
> middle
>  of a K-Mart with drool running down your chin yelling 'Don't buy your Fruity
>  Fruit Flavored Fruit Loops at K-Mart!  They're 10 cents cheaper at Wal-Mart!
>  K-Mart sucks, yeah, k-mart sucks, and I'm definitely not wearing my
> underwear...'
>
>  Go away.
>
>   >>
>
> Tanks do not sell for $99 down here.  The going price for a new tank is $129
> (check JJ's shop - is anyone calling him a rip off?).  Add the stainless bolt
> snaps at Extreme Exposure's price of $9.95 each (or more if you use the
> really big
> ones) and maybe $1 for 'string' and tubing and you arrive at a figure of $150
> for
> the rigged tank.  So explain to me again how selling this $150 (new) rigged
> tank
> for $100 (used) is a rip off?
>
> Now I suppose that someone could mail order a tank for your price of $99 then
> pay
> $40 in shipping down to Florida...  Yeah, that would make sense...  Open
> mouth,
> insert foot.  Go away.
>
> -Erik
>
> AKimbrel@ao*.co* wrote:
>
> > Erik,
> >  I don't sell used equipment. My girlfriend bitches at me all the time
> > because I have stock piles of used equipment. It isn't worth me to rake
> > people through the coals. Your DIR tank is extremely overpriced. I myself do
> > not like to see a man had or someone taking advantage of them. I see my
> > fellow man as a brother. I would not let my brother fall for such a rip off
> > nor would I allow him to do it to another. You see if everyone had ethics we
> > wouldn't have to worry about people like you. Thank you for the personal
> > e-mail and I feel even better for what I have done.
> >  I can buy the tank new without the string on it for $99. You call the
> > delivery drop off a "stroke pit" which really caught my eye. I guess that is
> > one of your keen selling points (that's what made me reply most of all).
> > Safe Diving,
> > Al
> >  By the way, if I'd caught Ken pushing that rip off sale I'd sank his boat
> > too.
> >
> > In a message dated 5/30/00 7:52:03 AM Central Daylight Time,
> cavedivr@uf*.ed*
> > writes:
> >
> > << Thanks for killing my sale.  Do you realize that if someone is
willing to
> > pay
> >  what I asked then it is a good deal for them?  Do you realize that this is
> > the
> >  standard 'going rate' for properly rigged AL 80 stage bottles - the SAME
> > price
> >  that our moderator, Ken Sallot, recently sold his stash of about 6 AL 80
> > stage
> >  bottles for on THIS mailing list?  Why didn't you give him a hard time?
> >
> >  This message may have been appropriate if mailed to me privately, in order
> to
> >  express your feelings on my price.  However, when you post something like
> > this to
> >  the list you all but eliminate my chances of selling my gear because you
> > create
> >  doubt in the minds of potential buyers.  This is completely inappropriate
> and
> >  unprofessional.  Be careful trying to sell your gear on this list.  I
> already
> >  have a nagging feeling that your prices will be too high or there will be
> >  something wrong with your gear that I need to announce to the list.
> >
> >  Have I ever interfered with any of your sales??  Grow up.
> >
> >  -Erik
> >
> >
> >  AKimbrel@ao*.co* wrote:
> >
> >  > In a message dated 5/25/00 3:57:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > cavedivr@uf*.ed*
> >  > writes:
> >  >
> >  > << 1 Luxfer Aluminum 80 Stage Rigged (Correctly) Bottle.  Hydro
due in
> >  >  2001.  Recent visual.  $100.  Tank is in High Springs and can be
> >  >  delivered to any of the local stroke pits.
> >  >
> >  >  Please respond to this e-mail if interested.
> >  >   >>
> >  > Your out your mind!
> >  > Al K
> >
> >   >>

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