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From: <AKimbrel@ao*.co*>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:58:13 EDT
Subject: Re: For Sale: 1 AL80 Stage Bottle
To: cavedivr@uf*.ed*
CC: cavers@cavers.com
1 I'm not from Jersey Never lived or been there. 2 YOU e-mailed me privately, 
I'll post the letter if you like.                          3  blow it out 
your @#$ till your nose bleeds. 
Al
I guess that means your not happy, E.S.? Don't expect another reply you baby. 

In a message dated 6/1/00 7:49:51 AM Central Daylight Time, cavedivr@uf*.ed* 
writes:

<< 
 You see, the problem here is that this goober has been privately 'yelling at 
me'
 for 'daring' to try to sell a used stage bottle for $100.  Why this is his
 problem I'll never know.  Nothing better to do - needs a life I suppose.  He 
says
 I'm a problem because I'm 'trying to rip people off' by selling it for so 
much.
 (BTW - I've never done business with him, met him, or anything)  Hell, he 
can git
 'em fer $100 brand spankin' new up thar in Jersey.  Well guess what Alvin, my
 main man, I choose to live in Florida, not Jersey.
 
 I had the audacity to explain to him, again in private, that the cost of a
 properly rigged stage bottle (with stainless bolt snaps from EE) certainly 
makes
 $100 a reasonable price for a used one in good shape.  Guess what - if you 
don't
 like the price...  don't buy it!  Yes, it really is that simple!  For you,
 obviously, $100 is too high a price.  For many others $100 is very 
reasonable.
 Please see e-bay where people routinely pay $120 for used tanks with NO 
rigging
 at all.
 
 Al, you are clearly the type of person who would jump up and down in the 
middle
 of a K-Mart with drool running down your chin yelling 'Don't buy your Fruity
 Fruit Flavored Fruit Loops at K-Mart!  They're 10 cents cheaper at Wal-Mart!
 K-Mart sucks, yeah, k-mart sucks, and I'm definitely not wearing my 
underwear...'
 
 Go away.
 
  >>
  
Tanks do not sell for $99 down here.  The going price for a new tank is $129
(check JJ's shop - is anyone calling him a rip off?).  Add the stainless bolt
snaps at Extreme Exposure's price of $9.95 each (or more if you use the 
really big
ones) and maybe $1 for 'string' and tubing and you arrive at a figure of $150 
for
the rigged tank.  So explain to me again how selling this $150 (new) rigged 
tank
for $100 (used) is a rip off?

Now I suppose that someone could mail order a tank for your price of $99 then 
pay
$40 in shipping down to Florida...  Yeah, that would make sense...  Open 
mouth,
insert foot.  Go away.

-Erik


AKimbrel@ao*.co* wrote:

> Erik,
>  I don't sell used equipment. My girlfriend bitches at me all the time
> because I have stock piles of used equipment. It isn't worth me to rake
> people through the coals. Your DIR tank is extremely overpriced. I myself do
> not like to see a man had or someone taking advantage of them. I see my
> fellow man as a brother. I would not let my brother fall for such a rip off
> nor would I allow him to do it to another. You see if everyone had ethics we
> wouldn't have to worry about people like you. Thank you for the personal
> e-mail and I feel even better for what I have done.
>  I can buy the tank new without the string on it for $99. You call the
> delivery drop off a "stroke pit" which really caught my eye. I guess that is
> one of your keen selling points (that's what made me reply most of all).
> Safe Diving,
> Al
>  By the way, if I'd caught Ken pushing that rip off sale I'd sank his boat
> too.
>
> In a message dated 5/30/00 7:52:03 AM Central Daylight Time, 
cavedivr@uf*.ed*
> writes:
>
> << Thanks for killing my sale.  Do you realize that if someone is
willing to
> pay
>  what I asked then it is a good deal for them?  Do you realize that this is
> the
>  standard 'going rate' for properly rigged AL 80 stage bottles - the SAME
> price
>  that our moderator, Ken Sallot, recently sold his stash of about 6 AL 80
> stage
>  bottles for on THIS mailing list?  Why didn't you give him a hard time?
>
>  This message may have been appropriate if mailed to me privately, in order 
to
>  express your feelings on my price.  However, when you post something like
> this to
>  the list you all but eliminate my chances of selling my gear because you
> create
>  doubt in the minds of potential buyers.  This is completely inappropriate 
and
>  unprofessional.  Be careful trying to sell your gear on this list.  I 
already
>  have a nagging feeling that your prices will be too high or there will be
>  something wrong with your gear that I need to announce to the list.
>
>  Have I ever interfered with any of your sales??  Grow up.
>
>  -Erik
>
>
>  AKimbrel@ao*.co* wrote:
>
>  > In a message dated 5/25/00 3:57:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
> cavedivr@uf*.ed*
>  > writes:
>  >
>  > << 1 Luxfer Aluminum 80 Stage Rigged (Correctly) Bottle.  Hydro due
in
>  >  2001.  Recent visual.  $100.  Tank is in High Springs and can be
>  >  delivered to any of the local stroke pits.
>  >
>  >  Please respond to this e-mail if interested.
>  >   >>
>  > Your out your mind!
>  > Al K
>
>   >>

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