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Chip, I think JJ beat you to it. Bruic ----- Original Message ----- From: chip thorp <chipthorp@ju*.co*> To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*> Cc: <cavers@cavers.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:46 PM Subject: Re: NSS/CDS Instruction??? > Mike , > I think its about time we as peergroup for cave diving in general came up with a list of prerequisites for the other cave diving afiliates ( NSS-CDS , NACD , IANTD ) .... > should prove to be easy ... or are we wasting bandwidth > uncle chip > ------Original Message------ > From: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*> > To: chip thorp <chipthorp@ju*.co*>, cavers@cavers.com > Sent: April 12, 2000 4:38:31 PM GMT > Subject: Re: NSS/CDS Instruction??? > > > Chip, I think that one is the "embezzlement for cocaine" course. However, > you might want to start with something easier and work your way up. Try the > "pre dive joint" course, I've heard that it is good for simulating deep air > narcosis while still remaining at sallow depths. > > Bruic > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: chip thorp <chipthorp@ju*.co*> > To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com> > Cc: <cavers@cavers.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: NSS/CDS Instruction??? > > > > oh... I thought it had somthing to do with my wallet and their leaky bank > acount..... > > uncle chip > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*> > > To: chip thorp <chipthorp@ju*.co*>, cavers@cavers.com > > Sent: April 12, 2000 2:43:27 AM GMT > > Subject: Re: NSS/CDS Instruction??? > > > > > > Chip, I think the lost line drill is something you do to find your cds > > instructor before he goes into the "my air, is my air" drill. > > > > Bruic > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: chip thorp <chipthorp@ju*.co*> > > To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com> > > Cc: <cavers@cavers.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:08 PM > > Subject: RE: NSS/CDS Instruction??? > > > > > > Well I'm one of those NSS-CDS eight day wonders . > > day 3 we did a body recovery in devil's den . > > that ended our intro to cave course . > > day 4 Bobby Mcguire ( sp ? ) toxed in thunder hole. > > I was co-instructed by ahh... mark leppard and someone else > > ....feathers comes to mind.... > > the short-story is > > the last day of our full cave course > > they conversed on the steps at peacock > > and due to time constrains decided we would'nt have to do the lost line > > drill .that way they could go to the funreal. > > so I ask what is a lost line drill ? :-) > > > > uncle chip > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*> > > To: cavers@cavers.com > > Sent: April 11, 2000 6:53:56 PM GMT > > Subject: NSS/CDS Instruction??? > > > > > > I would like to enlighten this list as to what it really takes to become a > > CDS instructor first hand. If anybody else has anything similar, please > post > > it. I don't expect to hear from any active CDS instructors, they don't > want > > to lose their cards, but then again, it really isn't worth much in my > view, > > so what are they scared of. > > > > During my internship to become a Full Cave Instructor within the CDS I was > > required to co-teach with several instructors within the organization. One > > of these classes was with two former Intro Cave students of mine (I was a > > Intro Instructor at the time) going for their App Cave Card. Our first > dive > > was to set-up a circuit at Ginnie. The dive went without event, and the > > students preformed fairly, but not at the App level in my judgement. When > > the time came for the post dive briefing, and discussion for the second > > dive, the instructor in charge signed their paperwork off at App cave, > gave > > it to me, and took his course fee's. When I ask him what he was doing he > > simply told me that from what he had seen they did very, very good, that > > their is nothing he could teach them and that he needed to get ready for a > > training committee meeting later that night anyway. Needless to say, these > > divers did do the required 4 dives (not 1) plus one more before I co-sign > > the paper work. In a completely different class, a different CDS > instructor > > didn't even require that I get into the water with him. After witnessing > all > > of this and much more, I sought out the real deal, and finished my > > internship solely with Pat Watson and Lamar Hires who both made me work > and > > learn more for my full cave instructor card. > > > > Bruic > > >
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