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From: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*>
To: "chip thorp" <chipthorp@ju*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: NSS/CDS Instruction???
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:38:31 -0400
Chip, I think that one is the "embezzlement for cocaine" course. However,
you might want to start with something easier and work your way up. Try the
"pre dive joint" course, I've heard that it is good for simulating deep air
narcosis while still remaining at sallow depths.

Bruic

----- Original Message -----
From: chip thorp <chipthorp@ju*.co*>
To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: NSS/CDS Instruction???


> oh... I thought it had somthing to do with my wallet and their leaky bank
acount.....
> uncle chip
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*>
> To: chip thorp <chipthorp@ju*.co*>, cavers@cavers.com
> Sent: April 12, 2000 2:43:27 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: NSS/CDS Instruction???
>
>
> Chip, I think the lost line drill is something you do to find your cds
> instructor before he goes into the "my air, is my air" drill.
>
> Bruic
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: chip thorp <chipthorp@ju*.co*>
> To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
> Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:08 PM
> Subject: RE: NSS/CDS Instruction???
>
>
> Well I'm one of those NSS-CDS eight day wonders .
> day 3 we did a body recovery in devil's den .
>        that ended our intro to cave course .
>  day 4 Bobby Mcguire ( sp ? ) toxed in thunder hole.
> I was co-instructed by ahh... mark leppard and someone else
> ....feathers comes to mind....
>  the short-story is
> the last day of our full cave course
> they conversed on the steps at peacock
> and due to time constrains decided we would'nt have to do the lost line
> drill .that way they could go to the funreal.
> so I ask  what is a lost line drill ?    :-)
>
> uncle chip
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*>
> To: cavers@cavers.com
> Sent: April 11, 2000 6:53:56 PM GMT
> Subject: NSS/CDS Instruction???
>
>
> I would like to enlighten this list as to what it really takes to become a
> CDS instructor first hand. If anybody else has anything similar, please
post
> it. I don't expect to hear from any active CDS instructors, they don't
want
> to lose their cards, but then again, it really isn't worth much in my
view,
> so what are they scared of.
>
> During my internship to become a Full Cave Instructor within the CDS I was
> required to co-teach with several instructors within the organization. One
> of these classes was with two former Intro Cave students of mine (I was a
> Intro Instructor at the time) going for their App Cave Card. Our first
dive
> was to set-up a circuit at Ginnie. The dive went without event, and the
> students preformed fairly, but not at the App level in my judgement. When
> the time came for the post dive briefing, and discussion for the second
> dive, the instructor in charge signed their paperwork off at App cave,
gave
> it to me, and took his course fee's. When I ask him what he was doing he
> simply told me that from what he had seen they did very, very good, that
> their is nothing he could teach them and that he needed to get ready for a
> training committee meeting later that night anyway. Needless to say, these
> divers did do the required 4 dives (not 1) plus one more before I co-sign
> the paper work. In a completely different class, a different CDS
instructor
> didn't even require that I get into the water with him. After witnessing
all
> of this and much more, I sought out the real deal, and finished my
> internship solely with Pat Watson and Lamar Hires who both made me work
and
> learn more for my full cave instructor card.
>
> Bruic
>

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