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No whinning...
Was the beer O'Douls, Sharps, Calibre, or the all time divers
favorite...Root Beer?
Cheers,
Capt. JIm Mims

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mike Bruic [mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 8:34 AM
  To: Barrie Heard; Barb Lander; Tom Mount
  Cc: cavers@cavers.com; Lamar Hires; Bill Nadeau; carl douglas; Casco
Antiguo; David Thompson; Dick Long; Dick Rutkowski; EGIL; Erika Haley; Fabio
Amaral; Fabio Ruberti; Frans Vandermolen; Garry Howland; gary taylor; Gil;
Gregg Stanton; IANTD - BRAZIL; IANTD Czech; IANTD Germany; IANTD Greece;
IANTD Ireland; IANTD Japan Training; IANTD Korea; IANTD Micronesia; IANTD
Philippines Alex; IANTD Portugal; IANTD S.E. Asia; IANTD Scandanvia; IANTD
South Africa; IANTD Sweden; IANTD UK; iantdfrance; iantdhq; Jill Heinerth;
Jim Mims; Johan Candert; John Thornton; Kevin Denlay;
Kevingurrphoenix@cs*.co*; Kim Cochrane; Mitsu Tanaka; Morgan Wells; Nancy
Romanica; Paul Lijnen; Paul Neilsen; Reg Creighton; Richard Bull; Richard
Nordstrom; Richard Pyle; Shelley orlowski; Vebj�rn Karlsen; Victor Williams;
William J Turbeville II
  Subject: Re: NAMES PLEASE


  Okay Tom, If IANTD chooses to hide things and hold Kangaroo Courts, so be
it. I really didn't think I would get anywhere pursuing this one with you,
and you proved me right. Tom just like you, I cc this letter also, it went
to cavers, so any comments you wish to make you can make to them also.

  Bruic


  ----- Original Message -----
    From: Tom Mount
    To: Barb Lander ; Barrie Heard ; Mike Bruic
    Cc: William J Turbeville II ; Victor Williams ; Vebj�rn Karlsen ;
Shelley orlowski ; Richard Pyle ; Richard Nordstrom ; Richard Bull ; Reg
Creighton ; Paul Neilsen ; Paul Lijnen ; Nancy Romanica ; Morgan Wells ;
Mitsu Tanaka ; Kim Cochrane ; Kevingurrphoenix@cs*.co* ; Kevin Denlay ; John
Thornton ; Johan Candert ; Jim Mims ; Jill Heinerth ; iantdhq ; iantdfrance
; IANTD UK ; IANTD Sweden ; IANTD South Africa ; IANTD Scandanvia ; IANTD
S.E. Asia ; IANTD Portugal ; IANTD Philippines Alex ; IANTD Micronesia ;
IANTD Korea ; IANTD Japan Training ; IANTD Ireland ; IANTD Greece ; IANTD
Germany ; IANTD Czech ; IANTD - BRAZIL ; Gregg Stanton ; Gil ; gary taylor ;
Garry Howland ; Frans Vandermolen ; Fabio Ruberti ; Fabio Amaral ; Erika
Haley ; EGIL ; Dick Rutkowski ; Dick Long ; David Thompson ; Casco Antiguo ;
carl douglas ; Bill Nadeau ; Lamar Hires
    Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:23 AM
    Subject: Re: NAMES PLEASE


    Mike

    One as I told you if you think the BOA will feelthis is worth and ethics
charge compared to the other issues we have to deal with then I will give
you all their names and you may pursue it.

    I do not know of the past events where Rennaker has performed unethical
actions that reflect on IANTD. Matter off act Bill has done little to effect
IANTD one way or the other

    I seem to get the blunt of your attention I guess because IANTD is the
only agency that even reviewed the circumstances and I'm the only one who
even discusses it with you. So I guess that makes us the bad guy to you. So
be it.


    Mike no one supports any negative behavior. I personally did give Bill a
warning that if he had said such things it could not happen again, as I have
already told you. I and Lamar and others on the IANTD bOA that I have talked
to do not consider this to be a magnitude nor circumstance to warrant
additional actions. We feel this is something you and Bill could and should
,as the N Fl cave community is rather small, work out among yourselves.

    Now Mike this is copied to the entire BOA so any comments you wish to
make to them do so.


    Respectfully yours,
    Tom Mount
    CEO IANTD World HQ
    http://www.iantd.com

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Mike Bruic
      To: Tom Mount
      Cc: Lamar Hires
      Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:44 PM
      Subject: Re: NAMES PLEASE


        Tom, you wrote;

        <Now no one is accusing anyone of lying accept you when you accuse
them>

        Tom, I think you are missing the whole point here, "I AM ACCUSING
RENNAKER OF LYING", and I have caught him lying twice trying to save his ass
on this one already. I thought I already proved this to you, and the third
time will be when I find out who the so-called witnesses are.

        <The only reason anyone other than a couple of you know anything
about this is because you made it a public knowledge>

        Tom read the letter, Bill himself acknowledges telling other people
these lies, so I guess I should just sit there and take it huh.

        <Lamar did say he did not smell beer on your breath  but that he
also was not very close to you.>

        I find that hard to believe since me and Lamar discussed in every
detail where I looked, and where he should look. This even included drawing
maps in the sand, but if this is what Lamar truly said, then I will accept
it.

        <I have not told Bill who supported you just that you had someone
and he has not demanded the names>

        Tom, you know that Bill does not need the name, I CC'ed everything
to him. Read my letter again, I do not have nothing to hide

        < why should I give these names to you..............you are not
defending yourself from anyone or anything.>

        Tom, stop and think for a minute, why do you think I filed this
complaint??? Rennaker tells people that I show up to cave recoveries drunk
and screaming at him. That I I'm so drunk that I didn't even realize that
I'm not wearing a drysuit when I get into the water. That he himself could
have found the girl, but instead the sheriffs choose the drunk and stopped
him from getting into the water. So, correct me if I'm wrong, but I take
what you are saying here is that if someone is being prosecuted for lying
the defense (Rennaker) can call any witness he wants to say anything they
want and the prosecution (that is me) is not entitled to here this??? This
sounds like a reverse angle to a Kangaroo Court to me.

        <the two of you should set down and work it out>

        I tried to Tom, I even called "you" and Lamar on this one. Sadly, I
think the only thing Rennaker would understand is a ass kicking, and I doubt
that would do any good. Yes, I think he is that stupid.

        <I do not think it is reveleant whether you had beer on your breath
or not if you were not diving.>

        Ah Tom, wake up, I was diving.

         <this is not a serious issue nor one that has really affected you
professionally or personally in any significant way.>

        Great, then you and Lamar won't take any offense at all when I start
promulgating bullshit and lies about the two of you then will you. As a
matter of fact, what you have demonstrated to me is that I can do it over
and over again. I came to the you guys for resolution, not cover-up. You
both know that it is not the first time Rennaker has done this kind of stuff
before, and the way you choose to handle it in the past tells me it will
undoubtedly not be the last. Rennaker has already disgraced and caused all
the organizations he represents allot bad PR, and I have only started where
others have left off.

        Bruic

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Tom Mount
        To: Mike Bruic
        Cc: Lamar Hires
        Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:07 PM
        Subject: Re: NAMES PLEASE


        Mike
        I have been teaching thus not even thinking about this or reading
emails

        Now no one is accusing anyone of lying accept you when you accuse
them

        I have not told Bill who supported you just that you had someone and
he has not demanded the names

        Thus why should I give these names to you and put then in a line of
fire from you, they do not need to get a lot of heated emails because thy
have made a statement. No one has made a complaint against you so you are
not defending yourself from anyone or anything. Bill would have had more of
a right to know as he was accussed by you, but he does not. If a action had
been taken yes then he would have known the people who started the action.

        I had a long talk to Lamar today on this issue, he does not think
this situation would result in anything accept a BOA action stating the two
of you should set down and work it out as it is more personal than ethical.
The only reason anyone other than a couple of you know anything about this
is because you made it a public knowledge

        Lamar did say he did not smell beer on your breath  but that he also
was not very close to you. He does not look at this as a serious event and
does not (like me) understand why it is being blown so far out of
proportion. Have you read some of your own published post.

        I do not think it is reveleant whether you had beer on your breath
or not if you were not diving. nor do I think anyone else would. And I
definitely believe you were not drunk. I see no need to contact the sheriff
deputies as no formal action is going to be pursued .

        We take a lot of actions on a lot of issues this is not a serious
issue nor one that has really affected you professionally or personally in
any significant way.  If you want to push it then contact Lamar who is quite
active on the BOA and I think he will state what I have just stated. Lamar
is CCed on this post

        If you still are not satisified I will give you the entire BOA
contacts and you can get everyones opnion but I think it will be about the
same. Especially as some of your actions most likely would be considered as
well . You know the old kittle and pot return

        Respectfully yours,
        Tom Mount
        CEO IANTD World HQ
        http://www.iantd.com

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Mike Bruic
          To: Tom Mount
          Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:00 PM
          Subject: NAMES PLEASE


          Tom, Monday has come and gone and you still have not told me the
names of Rennaker's witnesses. They have had all weekend to collaborate and
get their lies straight, and just like Rennaker has a right to see my
witnesses, I do to. Or does he really have any?

          Bruic

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whinning...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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the beer O'Douls, Sharps, Calibre, or the all time divers =
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class=3D880105215-12042000>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D880105215-12042000>Capt.=20
JIm Mims</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mike Bruic=20
  [mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 12, =
2000=20
  8:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Barrie Heard; Barb Lander; Tom =
Mount<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
  cavers@cavers.com; Lamar Hires; Bill Nadeau; carl douglas; Casco =
Antiguo;=20
  David Thompson; Dick Long; Dick Rutkowski; EGIL; Erika Haley; Fabio =
Amaral;=20
  Fabio Ruberti; Frans Vandermolen; Garry Howland; gary taylor; Gil; =
Gregg=20
  Stanton; IANTD - BRAZIL; IANTD Czech; IANTD Germany; IANTD Greece; =
IANTD=20
  Ireland; IANTD Japan Training; IANTD Korea; IANTD Micronesia; IANTD=20
  Philippines Alex; IANTD Portugal; IANTD S.E. Asia; IANTD Scandanvia; =
IANTD=20
  South Africa; IANTD Sweden; IANTD UK; iantdfrance; iantdhq; Jill =
Heinerth; Jim=20
  Mims; Johan Candert; John Thornton; Kevin Denlay; =
Kevingurrphoenix@cs*.co*; Kim=20
  Cochrane; Mitsu Tanaka; Morgan Wells; Nancy Romanica; Paul Lijnen; =
Paul=20
  Neilsen; Reg Creighton; Richard Bull; Richard Nordstrom; Richard Pyle; =
Shelley=20
  orlowski; Vebj=F8rn Karlsen; Victor Williams; William J Turbeville=20
  II<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: NAMES
PLEASE<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV>Okay Tom, If IANTD chooses to hide things and hold Kangaroo =
Courts,=20
  so be it. I really didn't think I would get anywhere pursuing this one =
with=20
  you, and you proved me right. Tom just like you, I cc this letter =
also, it=20
  went to cavers, so any comments you wish to make you can make to them=20
  also.</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>Bruic </DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*"=20
    title=3DTOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>Tom Mount</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:blander@un*.co*"=20
    title=3Dblander@un*.co*>Barb Lander</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:bheard@dc*.ne*.au*" title=3Dbheard@dc*.ne*.au*>Barrie =
Heard</A> ;=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*"=20
    title=3Dmikebruic@di*.co*>Mike Bruic</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:bturbo@ga*.ne*"=20
    title=3Dbturbo@ga*.ne*>William J Turbeville II</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:diving@sp*.co*" =
title=3Ddiving@sp*.co*>Victor=20
    Williams</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:karlsenv@on*.no*"=20
    title=3Dkarlsenv@on*.no*>Vebj=F8rn Karlsen</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:orlowski@at*.ne*" =
title=3Dorlowski@at*.ne*>Shelley=20
    orlowski</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:deepreef@bi*.or*"=20
    title=3Ddeepreef@bi*.or*>Richard Pyle</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:74663.1663@co*.co*"=20
    title=3D74663.1663@co*.co*>Richard Nordstrom</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:info@oc*.co*.uk*" =
title=3Dinfo@oc*.co*.uk*>Richard=20
    Bull</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:regc@ca*.ky*" =
title=3Dregc@ca*.ky*>Reg=20
    Creighton</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:mandarin@ga*.ne*.hk*"=20
    title=3Dmandarin@ga*.ne*.hk*>Paul Neilsen</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:paull@vi*.uu*.be*" =
title=3Dpaull@vi*.uu*.be*>Paul=20
    Lijnen</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:divetech@ca*.ky*"=20
    title=3Ddivetech@ca*.ky*>Nancy Romanica</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:morgan@vi*.ed*" title=3Dmorgan@vi*.ed*>Morgan =
Wells</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:glimmer@mb*.kc*.ne*.jp*" =
title=3Dglimmer@mb*.kc*.ne*.jp*>Mitsu=20
    Tanaka</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:Cochrane@ac*.co*"=20
    title=3DCochrane@ac*.co*>Kim Cochrane</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:Kevingurrphoenix@cs*.co*"=20
    title=3DKevingurrphoenix@cs*.co*>Kevingurrphoenix@cs.com</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:altdive@ia*.co*.au*" =
title=3Daltdive@ia*.co*.au*>Kevin=20
    Denlay</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:john@sc*.co*"=20
    title=3Djohn@sc*.co*>John Thornton</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:johan@st*.se*"=20
    title=3Djohan@st*.se*>Johan Candert</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:divetek@oc*.co*" =
title=3Ddivetek@oc*.co*>Jim=20
    Mims</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:heinerth@gt*.ne*" =
title=3Dheinerth@gt*.ne*>Jill=20
    Heinerth</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:iantdhq@ix*.ne*.co*"=20
    title=3Diantdhq@ix*.ne*.co*>iantdhq</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:iantdfrance@wa*.fr*"=20
    title=3Diantdfrance@wa*.fr*>iantdfrance</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:100044.3401@co*.co*"=20
    title=3D100044.3401@co*.co*>IANTD UK</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:info@ia*.co*" =
title=3Dinfo@ia*.co*>IANTD=20
    Sweden</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:iantdsa@ia*.co*"=20
    title=3Diantdsa@ia*.co*>IANTD South Africa</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:egil@av*.fi*" title=3Degil@av*.fi*>IANTD=20
    Scandanvia</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:khooss@si*.co*.sg*"=20
    title=3Dkhooss@si*.co*.sg*>IANTD S.E. Asia</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:po12210@pt*.ib*.co*" title=3Dpo12210@pt*.ib*.co*>IANTD =
Portugal</A>=20
    ; <A href=3D"mailto:techsec@i-*.co*.ph*"=20
    title=3Dtechsec@i-*.co*.ph*>IANTD Philippines Alex</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:psdivers@ku*.gu*.ne*"=20
    title=3Dpsdivers@ku*.gu*.ne*>IANTD Micronesia</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:aad@sa*.co*" title=3Daad@sa*.co*>IANTD =
Korea</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:iantdjp@di*.co*" =
title=3Diantdjp@di*.co*>IANTD Japan=20
    Training</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:IANTDIRL@ao*.co*"=20
    title=3DIANTDIRL@ao*.co*>IANTD Ireland</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:iantdgr@at*.mb*.gr*" =
title=3Diantdgr@at*.mb*.gr*>IANTD=20
    Greece</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:iantd@su*.de*"=20
    title=3Diantd@su*.de*>IANTD Germany</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:kony@un*.cz*" title=3Dkony@un*.cz*>IANTD =
Czech</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:iantdbrazil@uo*.co*.br*" =
title=3Diantdbrazil@uo*.co*.br*>IANTD -=20
    BRAZIL</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:gstanton@ma*.fs*.ed*"=20
    title=3Dgstanton@ma*.fs*.ed*>Gregg Stanton</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:gildiver@di*.co*.br*"=20
    title=3Dgildiver@di*.co*.br*>Gil</A> ; <A =
href=3D"mailto:diveonmix@ao*.co*"=20
    title=3Ddiveonmix@ao*.co*>gary taylor</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:ghowland@fw*.gu*.ne*" =
title=3Dghowland@fw*.gu*.ne*>Garry=20
    Howland</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:75204.1243@co*.co*"=20
    title=3D75204.1243@co*.co*>Frans Vandermolen</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:fabio.ruberti@ti*.it*"=20
    title=3Dfabio.ruberti@ti*.it*>Fabio Ruberti</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:fabio_amaral@ya*.co*" =
title=3Dfabio_amaral@ya*.co*>Fabio=20
    Amaral</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:haley@ca*.ky*" =
title=3Dhaley@ca*.ky*>Erika=20
    Haley</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:egil@ad*.pp*.fi*"=20
    title=3Degil@ad*.pp*.fi*>EGIL</A> ; <A =
href=3D"mailto:dick@hy*.co*"=20
    title=3Ddick@hy*.co*>Dick Rutkowski</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:dicklong@du*.co*" =
title=3Ddicklong@du*.co*>Dick=20
    Long</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:DThomp@te*.es*"=20
    title=3DDThomp@te*.es*>David Thompson</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:buceo@ca*.co*" =
title=3Dbuceo@ca*.co*>Casco=20
    Antiguo</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:carl.douglas@sl*.se*"=20
    title=3Dcarl.douglas@sl*.se*>carl douglas</A> ; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:tekdiver@na*.ar*.co*" =
title=3Dtekdiver@na*.ar*.co*>Bill=20
    Nadeau</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:lamar@di*.co*"=20
    title=3Dlamar@di*.co*>Lamar Hires</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 12, =
2000 9:23=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NAMES =
PLEASE</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mike</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>One as I told you if you think the BOA will =
feelthis is=20
    worth and ethics charge compared to the other issues we have to deal =
with=20
    then I will give you all their names and you may pursue =
it.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I do not know of the past events where Rennaker =
has=20
    performed unethical actions that reflect on IANTD. Matter off act =
Bill has=20
    done little to effect IANTD one way or the other</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I seem to get the blunt of your attention I =
guess because=20
    IANTD is the only agency that even reviewed the circumstances and =
I'm the=20
    only one who even discusses it with you. So I guess that makes us =
the bad=20
    guy to you. So be it.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mike no one supports any negative behavior. I =
personally=20
    did give Bill a warning that if he had said such things it could not =
happen=20
    again, as I have already told you. I and Lamar and others on =
the IANTD=20
    bOA that I have talked to do not consider this to be a magnitude nor =

    circumstance to warrant additional actions. We feel this is =
something you=20
    and Bill could and should ,as the N Fl cave community is rather =
small, work=20
    out among yourselves.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Now Mike this is copied to the entire =
BOA so any=20
    comments you wish to make to them do so.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV> </DIV>
    <DIV><BR>Respectfully yours,<BR>Tom Mount<BR>CEO IANTD World =
HQ<BR><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.iantd.com">http://www.iantd.com</A><BR></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A href=3D"mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*"=20
      title=3Dmikebruic@di*.co*>Mike Bruic</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*"=20
      title=3DTOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>Tom Mount</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:lamar@di*.co*" =
title=3Dlamar@di*.co*>Lamar=20
      Hires</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 11, =
2000 6:44=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NAMES =
PLEASE</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Tom, you =
wrote;</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3><FONT=20
        size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3><FONT =
size=3D2><<FONT=20
        size=3D2>Now no one is accusing anyone of lying accept you when =
you accuse=20
        them></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3><FONT=20
        size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Tom, I think you =
are missing=20
        the whole point here, "I AM ACCUSING RENNAKER OF LYING", and I =
have=20
        caught him lying twice trying to save his ass on this one =
already.=20
        I thought I already proved this to you, and the third time will =
be when=20
        I find out who the so-called witnesses are.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2><The only =
reason anyone=20
        other than a couple of you know anything about this is because =
you made=20
        it a public knowledge></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Tom read the =
letter, Bill=20
        himself acknowledges telling other people these lies, so I =
guess I=20
        should just sit there and take it huh.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3><FONT =
size=3D2><Lamar did=20
        say he did not smell beer on your breath  but that he also =
was not=20
        very close to you.> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>I find that hard =
to believe=20
        since me and Lamar discussed in every detail where I looked, and =

        where he should look. This even included drawing maps in =
the sand,=20
        but if this is what Lamar truly said, then I will accept=20
        it.</FONT> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2><I have not =
told Bill who=20
        supported you just that you had someone and he has not demanded =
the=20
        names></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Tom, you know =
that Bill does=20
        not need the name, I CC'ed everything to him. Read my letter =
again, I do=20
        not have nothing to hide</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2>< why =
should I give=20
        these names to you..............you are not defending yourself =
from=20
        anyone or anything.></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Tom, stop and =
think for a=20
        minute, why do you think I filed this complaint??? Rennaker =
tells people=20
        that I show up to cave recoveries drunk and screaming at him. =
That I I'm=20
        so drunk that I didn't even realize that I'm not wearing a =
drysuit=20
        when I get into the water. That he himself could have found =
the=20
        girl, but instead the sheriffs choose the drunk and stopped =
him=20
        from getting into the water. So, correct me if I'm wrong, =
but I=20
        take what you are saying here is that if someone is =
being=20
        prosecuted for lying the defense (Rennaker) can call any =
witness he=20
        wants to say anything they want and the prosecution (that is me) =
is not=20
        entitled to here this??? This sounds like a reverse angle to a =
Kangaroo=20
        Court to me.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><the two of you should set =
down and=20
        work it out></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>I tried to Tom, I =
even called=20
        "you" and Lamar on this one. Sadly, I think the only thing =
Rennaker=20
        would understand is a ass kicking, and I doubt that would do any =
good.=20
        Yes, I think he is that stupid.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2><I do not =
think it is=20
        reveleant whether you had beer on your breath or not if you were =
not=20
        diving.></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Ah Tom, wake =
up, I was=20
        diving.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> <this is not a serious =
issue nor=20
        one that has really affected you professionally or personally in =
any=20
        significant way.></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Great, then you =
and Lamar=20
        won't take any offense at all when I start promulgating bullshit =
and=20
        lies about the two of you then will you. As a matter of fact, =
what you=20
        have demonstrated to me is that I can do it over and over again. =
I came=20
        to the you guys for resolution, not cover-up. You both know =
that it=20
        is not the first time Rennaker has done this kind of stuff =
before, and=20
        the way you choose to handle it in the past tells me it =
will=20
        undoubtedly not be the last. Rennaker has already disgraced and =
caused=20
        all the organizations he represents allot bad PR, and I have =
only=20
        started where others have left off.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT =
size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Bruic  =
</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
----- </DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A href=3D"mailto:TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*"=20
        title=3DTOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>Tom Mount</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*"=20
        title=3Dmikebruic@di*.co*>Mike Bruic</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:lamar@di*.co*" =
title=3Dlamar@di*.co*>Lamar=20
        Hires</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April
11, =
2000 6:07=20
        PM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NAMES =
PLEASE</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mike</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have been teaching thus not even thinking =
about this=20
        or reading emails</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Now no one is accusing anyone of lying =
accept you when=20
        you accuse them</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have not told Bill who supported you just =
that you=20
        had someone and he has not demanded the names</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thus why should I give these names to you =
and put then=20
        in a line of fire from you, they do not need to get a lot of =
heated=20
        emails because thy have made a statement. No one has made a =
complaint=20
        against you so you are not defending yourself from anyone or =
anything.=20
        Bill would have had more of a right to know as he was accussed =
by you,=20
        but he does not. If a action had been taken yes then he would =
have=20
        known the people who started the action. </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I had a long talk to Lamar today on this =
issue, he=20
        does not think this situation would result in anything accept a =
BOA=20
        action stating the two of you should set down and work it out as =
it is=20
        more personal than ethical. The only reason anyone other than a =
couple=20
        of you know anything about this is because you made it a public=20
        knowledge</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Lamar did say he did not smell beer on your=20
        breath  but that he also was not very close to you. He does =
not=20
        look at this as a serious event and does not (like me) =
understand why it=20
        is being blown so far out of proportion. Have you read some of =
your own=20
        published post. </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I do not think it is reveleant whether you =
had beer on=20
        your breath or not if you were not diving. nor do I think anyone =
else=20
        would. And I definitely believe you were not drunk. I see no =
need to=20
        contact the sheriff deputies as no formal action is going to be =
pursued=20
        . </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>We take a lot of actions on a lot of issues =
this is=20
        not a serious issue nor one that has really affected you =
professionally=20
        or personally in any significant way.  If you want to push =
it then=20
        contact Lamar who is quite active on the BOA and I think he will =
state=20
        what I have just stated. Lamar is CCed on this post</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV> </DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you still are not satisified I will give =
you the=20
        entire BOA contacts and you can get everyones opnion but I think =
it will=20
        be about the same. Especially as some of your actions most =
likely would=20
        be considered as well . You know the old kittle and pot=20
        return</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><BR>Respectfully yours,<BR>Tom Mount<BR>CEO IANTD
World =
HQ<BR><A=20
       
href=3D"http://www.iantd.com">http://www.iantd.com</A><BR></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
        style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
          <A href=3D"mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*"=20
          title=3Dmikebruic@di*.co*>Mike Bruic</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
          href=3D"mailto:TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*"=20
          title=3DTOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>Tom Mount</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April =
11, 2000=20
          3:00 PM</DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> NAMES =
PLEASE</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <DIV>Tom, Monday has come and gone and you still have not told =
me the=20
          names of Rennaker's witnesses. They have had all weekend to=20
          collaborate and get their lies straight, and just like =
Rennaker has a=20
          right to see my witnesses, I do to. Or does he really have =
any? </DIV>
          <DIV> </DIV>
          =
<DIV>Bruic</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK
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