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George, What do you mean by the "thin-tubed DIN connections"? I use MK20's and maybe I shouldn't? Jack > -----Original Message----- > From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*] > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 5:35 AM > To: Pat Kachmar > Cc: glasbrenner@mi*.co*; cavers@cavers.com > Subject: Back Gas Regulators > > > Actully, using the side of the swivel rahger than the end port allows > the long hose to go to any position in sharing. Using the side of the > swivel allows for the backup reg and the inflator to tuck in, > and allows > the short hose to be pulled a few inches further out if you have to go > to it, but stays tucked way back and tight when you do not need it. If > you use the sides of thg swivel, you can use the same length > hoses that > work for a non swivel reg as well, so if you can maintain an inventory > of standard hose lenths that work on any reg. > > I so not use swivels on my back, but did make up one set for > a while to > try the Scuba Pro MK20's one time when they gave me two of > them. I since > just use them as stage regs, not that they have failed on me, > but that I > do not like the idea of a swivel on my back, I do not like to use the > thin-tubed DIN connections on my back ( I prefer "native" > DIN's that are > thicker , or replace them with custom stainless DIN tubes ), and I do > not like regs on my back where the IP is too high even with all of the > shims removed. > > I prefer the Apeks US 4 on my back as it solves all of these > problems, > and has a great seat that is a piston-like soft cone to a hard ring, > kind of a large backwards Poseiden scheme, and the ports arer > positioned > like the Poseiden, it is very small, has a low profile form the valve, > and is tight in from the knobs. I also have several other > back gas sets > , but that one is the best I have found, and of course the > second stages > that come with them are the undisputed best in the game. I use the air > balanced for the primary and the non air balanced for the > backup. These > are the only regs that I have no parts for - I have never > needed them in > 10 years, and only have had a couple of my 15 copies ever serviced. > > Pat Kachmar wrote: > > > > Well, the left post is fine, but the right side first > stage should be > > turned inward so the inflator comes off the end. This does > two things first > > it gives you better access to the knobs, and allows for > less stress on the > > long hose when sharing gas.Now that I think about it it > does at least one > > more thing if your long hose is on a side port you will > gain a couple of > > inches of length when sharing simply because of the swivel(mk20). > > > > This is not "MY" configuration. This is the way it > needs to be done. > > Take a look at any non-stroke doing any kind of serious > dive they are > > already doing this. They have already figured this > out.Those of us who > > actually dive already know this. > > > > You need to do your fucking homework and shut the fuck > up! Why don't you > > take your own advice and go away! > > > > >From: "Drew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@mi*.co*> > > >To: <cavers@cavers.com> > > >Subject: Re: Time for a confession > > >Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:23:36 -0400 > > > > > >Everyone has to fall for a troll once in a while. > > > > > >So why don't you explain to us just what is wrong with the > routing...and > > >why > > >your configuration is better. > > > > > >Or just go away? > > > > > >Drew > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Pat Kachmar <abyss30@ho*.co*> > > >To: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com> > > >Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 8:04 PM > > >Subject: Re: Time for a confession > > > > > > > > > >not sure but the hose routing is fucked up > > > > > > > >>From: "Drew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@mi*.co*> > > > >>To: "Cave listserv" <cavers@cavers.com>, > <techdiver@aq*.co*> > > > >>Subject: Time for a confession > > > >>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:33:35 -0400 > > > >> > > > >>Who did this? > > > >> > > > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=305543524 > > > >> > > > >>Drew > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > > > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >
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