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George, thanks for the post on this. I was turned off the mk-20s because of the parts problem, so went for the Apeks instead and have been real happy with them. I can't stand it when someone gets on here and fails to back shit up, and then gets nasty when called to the carpet. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> To: Pat Kachmar <abyss30@ho*.co*> Cc: glasbrenner@mi*.co* <glasbrenner@mi*.co*>; cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com> Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 6:55 AM Subject: Back Gas Regulators >Actully, using the side of the swivel rahger than the end port allows >the long hose to go to any position in sharing. Using the side of the >swivel allows for the backup reg and the inflator to tuck in, and allows >the short hose to be pulled a few inches further out if you have to go >to it, but stays tucked way back and tight when you do not need it. If >you use the sides of thg swivel, you can use the same length hoses that >work for a non swivel reg as well, so if you can maintain an inventory >of standard hose lenths that work on any reg. > >I so not use swivels on my back, but did make up one set for a while to >try the Scuba Pro MK20's one time when they gave me two of them. I since >just use them as stage regs, not that they have failed on me, but that I >do not like the idea of a swivel on my back, I do not like to use the >thin-tubed DIN connections on my back ( I prefer "native" DIN's that are >thicker , or replace them with custom stainless DIN tubes ), and I do >not like regs on my back where the IP is too high even with all of the >shims removed. > > I prefer the Apeks US 4 on my back as it solves all of these problems, >and has a great seat that is a piston-like soft cone to a hard ring, >kind of a large backwards Poseiden scheme, and the ports arer positioned >like the Poseiden, it is very small, has a low profile form the valve, >and is tight in from the knobs. I also have several other back gas sets >, but that one is the best I have found, and of course the second stages >that come with them are the undisputed best in the game. I use the air >balanced for the primary and the non air balanced for the backup. These >are the only regs that I have no parts for - I have never needed them in >10 years, and only have had a couple of my 15 copies ever serviced. > >Pat Kachmar wrote: >> >> Well, the left post is fine, but the right side first stage should be >> turned inward so the inflator comes off the end. This does two things first >> it gives you better access to the knobs, and allows for less stress on the >> long hose when sharing gas.Now that I think about it it does at least one >> more thing if your long hose is on a side port you will gain a couple of >> inches of length when sharing simply because of the swivel(mk20). >> >> This is not "MY" configuration. This is the way it needs to be done. >> Take a look at any non-stroke doing any kind of serious dive they are >> already doing this. They have already figured this out.Those of us who >> actually dive already know this. >> >> You need to do your fucking homework and shut the fuck up! Why don't you >> take your own advice and go away! >> >> >From: "Drew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@mi*.co*> >> >To: <cavers@cavers.com> >> >Subject: Re: Time for a confession >> >Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:23:36 -0400 >> > >> >Everyone has to fall for a troll once in a while. >> > >> >So why don't you explain to us just what is wrong with the routing...and >> >why >> >your configuration is better. >> > >> >Or just go away? >> > >> >Drew >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Pat Kachmar <abyss30@ho*.co*> >> >To: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com> >> >Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 8:04 PM >> >Subject: Re: Time for a confession >> > >> > >> > >not sure but the hose routing is fucked up >> > > >> > >>From: "Drew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@mi*.co*> >> > >>To: "Cave listserv" <cavers@cavers.com>, <techdiver@aq*.co*> >> > >>Subject: Time for a confession >> > >>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:33:35 -0400 >> > >> >> > >>Who did this? >> > >> >> > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=305543524 >> > >> >> > >>Drew >> > > >> > >______________________________________________________ >> > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > > >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >
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