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From: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*>
To: "chip thorp" <chipthorp@ju*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: NSS/CDS Instruction???
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:43:27 -0400
Chip, I think the lost line drill is something you do to find your cds
instructor before he goes into the "my air, is my air" drill.

Bruic

----- Original Message -----
From: chip thorp <chipthorp@ju*.co*>
To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: NSS/CDS Instruction???


Well I'm one of those NSS-CDS eight day wonders .
day 3 we did a body recovery in devil's den .
       that ended our intro to cave course .
 day 4 Bobby Mcguire ( sp ? ) toxed in thunder hole.
I was co-instructed by ahh... mark leppard and someone else
....feathers comes to mind....
 the short-story is
the last day of our full cave course
they conversed on the steps at peacock
and due to time constrains decided we would'nt have to do the lost line
drill .that way they could go to the funreal.
so I ask  what is a lost line drill ?    :-)

uncle chip

------Original Message------
From: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*>
To: cavers@cavers.com
Sent: April 11, 2000 6:53:56 PM GMT
Subject: NSS/CDS Instruction???


I would like to enlighten this list as to what it really takes to become a
CDS instructor first hand. If anybody else has anything similar, please post
it. I don't expect to hear from any active CDS instructors, they don't want
to lose their cards, but then again, it really isn't worth much in my view,
so what are they scared of.

During my internship to become a Full Cave Instructor within the CDS I was
required to co-teach with several instructors within the organization. One
of these classes was with two former Intro Cave students of mine (I was a
Intro Instructor at the time) going for their App Cave Card. Our first dive
was to set-up a circuit at Ginnie. The dive went without event, and the
students preformed fairly, but not at the App level in my judgement. When
the time came for the post dive briefing, and discussion for the second
dive, the instructor in charge signed their paperwork off at App cave, gave
it to me, and took his course fee's. When I ask him what he was doing he
simply told me that from what he had seen they did very, very good, that
their is nothing he could teach them and that he needed to get ready for a
training committee meeting later that night anyway. Needless to say, these
divers did do the required 4 dives (not 1) plus one more before I co-sign
the paper work. In a completely different class, a different CDS instructor
didn't even require that I get into the water with him. After witnessing all
of this and much more, I sought out the real deal, and finished my
internship solely with Pat Watson and Lamar Hires who both made me work and
learn more for my full cave instructor card.

Bruic


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