This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BFA459.DFFCE240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay Tom, If IANTD chooses to hide things and hold Kangaroo Courts, so = be it. I really didn't think I would get anywhere pursuing this one with = you, and you proved me right. Tom just like you, I cc this letter also, = it went to cavers, so any comments you wish to make you can make to them = also. Bruic=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Mount=20 To: Barb Lander ; Barrie Heard ; Mike Bruic=20 Cc: William J Turbeville II ; Victor Williams ; Vebj=F8rn Karlsen ; = Shelley orlowski ; Richard Pyle ; Richard Nordstrom ; Richard Bull ; Reg = Creighton ; Paul Neilsen ; Paul Lijnen ; Nancy Romanica ; Morgan Wells ; = Mitsu Tanaka ; Kim Cochrane ; Kevingurrphoenix@cs*.co* ; Kevin Denlay ; = John Thornton ; Johan Candert ; Jim Mims ; Jill Heinerth ; iantdhq ; = iantdfrance ; IANTD UK ; IANTD Sweden ; IANTD South Africa ; IANTD = Scandanvia ; IANTD S.E. Asia ; IANTD Portugal ; IANTD Philippines Alex ; = IANTD Micronesia ; IANTD Korea ; IANTD Japan Training ; IANTD Ireland ; = IANTD Greece ; IANTD Germany ; IANTD Czech ; IANTD - BRAZIL ; Gregg = Stanton ; Gil ; gary taylor ; Garry Howland ; Frans Vandermolen ; Fabio = Ruberti ; Fabio Amaral ; Erika Haley ; EGIL ; Dick Rutkowski ; Dick Long = ; David Thompson ; Casco Antiguo ; carl douglas ; Bill Nadeau ; Lamar = Hires=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:23 AM Subject: Re: NAMES PLEASE Mike One as I told you if you think the BOA will feelthis is worth and = ethics charge compared to the other issues we have to deal with then I = will give you all their names and you may pursue it. I do not know of the past events where Rennaker has performed = unethical actions that reflect on IANTD. Matter off act Bill has done = little to effect IANTD one way or the other I seem to get the blunt of your attention I guess because IANTD is the = only agency that even reviewed the circumstances and I'm the only one = who even discusses it with you. So I guess that makes us the bad guy to = you. So be it. Mike no one supports any negative behavior. I personally did give Bill = a warning that if he had said such things it could not happen again, as = I have already told you. I and Lamar and others on the IANTD bOA that I = have talked to do not consider this to be a magnitude nor circumstance = to warrant additional actions. We feel this is something you and Bill = could and should ,as the N Fl cave community is rather small, work out = among yourselves. =20 Now Mike this is copied to the entire BOA so any comments you wish to = make to them do so. Respectfully yours, Tom Mount CEO IANTD World HQ http://www.iantd.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Bruic=20 To: Tom Mount=20 Cc: Lamar Hires=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:44 PM Subject: Re: NAMES PLEASE Tom, you wrote; =20 <Now no one is accusing anyone of lying accept you when you accuse = them> =20 Tom, I think you are missing the whole point here, "I AM ACCUSING = RENNAKER OF LYING", and I have caught him lying twice trying to save his = ass on this one already. I thought I already proved this to you, and the = third time will be when I find out who the so-called witnesses are. =20 <The only reason anyone other than a couple of you know anything = about this is because you made it a public knowledge> Tom read the letter, Bill himself acknowledges telling other = people these lies, so I guess I should just sit there and take it huh. <Lamar did say he did not smell beer on your breath but that he = also was not very close to you.>=20 I find that hard to believe since me and Lamar discussed in every = detail where I looked, and where he should look. This even included = drawing maps in the sand, but if this is what Lamar truly said, then I = will accept it.=20 <I have not told Bill who supported you just that you had someone = and he has not demanded the names> Tom, you know that Bill does not need the name, I CC'ed everything = to him. Read my letter again, I do not have nothing to hide < why should I give these names to you..............you are not = defending yourself from anyone or anything.> Tom, stop and think for a minute, why do you think I filed this = complaint??? Rennaker tells people that I show up to cave recoveries = drunk and screaming at him. That I I'm so drunk that I didn't even = realize that I'm not wearing a drysuit when I get into the water. That = he himself could have found the girl, but instead the sheriffs choose = the drunk and stopped him from getting into the water. So, correct me if = I'm wrong, but I take what you are saying here is that if someone is = being prosecuted for lying the defense (Rennaker) can call any witness = he wants to say anything they want and the prosecution (that is me) is = not entitled to here this??? This sounds like a reverse angle to a = Kangaroo Court to me. <the two of you should set down and work it out> I tried to Tom, I even called "you" and Lamar on this one. Sadly, = I think the only thing Rennaker would understand is a ass kicking, and I = doubt that would do any good. Yes, I think he is that stupid. <I do not think it is reveleant whether you had beer on your = breath or not if you were not diving.> =20 Ah Tom, wake up, I was diving. <this is not a serious issue nor one that has really affected you = professionally or personally in any significant way.> Great, then you and Lamar won't take any offense at all when I = start promulgating bullshit and lies about the two of you then will you. = As a matter of fact, what you have demonstrated to me is that I can do = it over and over again. I came to the you guys for resolution, not = cover-up. You both know that it is not the first time Rennaker has done = this kind of stuff before, and the way you choose to handle it in the = past tells me it will undoubtedly not be the last. Rennaker has already = disgraced and caused all the organizations he represents allot bad PR, = and I have only started where others have left off. =20 Bruic =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Mount=20 To: Mike Bruic=20 Cc: Lamar Hires=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:07 PM Subject: Re: NAMES PLEASE Mike I have been teaching thus not even thinking about this or reading = emails Now no one is accusing anyone of lying accept you when you accuse = them I have not told Bill who supported you just that you had someone = and he has not demanded the names Thus why should I give these names to you and put then in a line = of fire from you, they do not need to get a lot of heated emails because = thy have made a statement. No one has made a complaint against you so = you are not defending yourself from anyone or anything. Bill would have = had more of a right to know as he was accussed by you, but he does not. = If a action had been taken yes then he would have known the people who = started the action.=20 I had a long talk to Lamar today on this issue, he does not think = this situation would result in anything accept a BOA action stating the = two of you should set down and work it out as it is more personal than = ethical. The only reason anyone other than a couple of you know anything = about this is because you made it a public knowledge Lamar did say he did not smell beer on your breath but that he = also was not very close to you. He does not look at this as a serious = event and does not (like me) understand why it is being blown so far out = of proportion. Have you read some of your own published post.=20 I do not think it is reveleant whether you had beer on your breath = or not if you were not diving. nor do I think anyone else would. And I = definitely believe you were not drunk. I see no need to contact the = sheriff deputies as no formal action is going to be pursued .=20 We take a lot of actions on a lot of issues this is not a serious = issue nor one that has really affected you professionally or personally = in any significant way. If you want to push it then contact Lamar who = is quite active on the BOA and I think he will state what I have just = stated. Lamar is CCed on this post If you still are not satisified I will give you the entire BOA = contacts and you can get everyones opnion but I think it will be about = the same. Especially as some of your actions most likely would be = considered as well . You know the old kittle and pot return Respectfully yours, Tom Mount CEO IANTD World HQ http://www.iantd.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Bruic=20 To: Tom Mount=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:00 PM Subject: NAMES PLEASE Tom, Monday has come and gone and you still have not told me the = names of Rennaker's witnesses. They have had all weekend to collaborate = and get their lies straight, and just like Rennaker has a right to see = my witnesses, I do to. Or does he really have any?=20 Bruic ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BFA459.DFFCE240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Okay Tom, If IANTD chooses to hide things and hold Kangaroo = Courts, so=20 be it. I really didn't think I would get anywhere pursuing this one with = you,=20 and you proved me right. Tom just like you, I cc this letter also, it = went to=20 cavers, so any comments you wish to make you can make to them = also.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bruic </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*"=20 title=3DTOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>Tom Mount</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:blander@un*.co*" = title=3Dblander@un*.co*>Barb=20 Lander</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:bheard@dc*.ne*.au*"=20 title=3Dbheard@dc*.ne*.au*>Barrie Heard</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*" = title=3Dmikebruic@di*.co*>Mike=20 Bruic</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:bturbo@ga*.ne*"=20 title=3Dbturbo@ga*.ne*>William J Turbeville II</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:diving@sp*.co*" = title=3Ddiving@sp*.co*>Victor=20 Williams</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:karlsenv@on*.no*"=20 title=3Dkarlsenv@on*.no*>Vebj=F8rn Karlsen</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:orlowski@at*.ne*" = title=3Dorlowski@at*.ne*>Shelley=20 orlowski</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:deepreef@bi*.or*"=20 title=3Ddeepreef@bi*.or*>Richard Pyle</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:74663.1663@co*.co*"=20 title=3D74663.1663@co*.co*>Richard Nordstrom</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:info@oc*.co*.uk*" = title=3Dinfo@oc*.co*.uk*>Richard Bull</A>=20 ; <A href=3D"mailto:regc@ca*.ky*" title=3Dregc@ca*.ky*>Reg = Creighton</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:mandarin@ga*.ne*.hk*" = title=3Dmandarin@ga*.ne*.hk*>Paul=20 Neilsen</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:paull@vi*.uu*.be*"=20 title=3Dpaull@vi*.uu*.be*>Paul Lijnen</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:divetech@ca*.ky*" title=3Ddivetech@ca*.ky*>Nancy = Romanica</A> ;=20 <A href=3D"mailto:morgan@vi*.ed*" title=3Dmorgan@vi*.ed*>Morgan = Wells</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:glimmer@mb*.kc*.ne*.jp*" = title=3Dglimmer@mb*.kc*.ne*.jp*>Mitsu=20 Tanaka</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:Cochrane@ac*.co*"=20 title=3DCochrane@ac*.co*>Kim Cochrane</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:Kevingurrphoenix@cs*.co*"=20 title=3DKevingurrphoenix@cs*.co*>Kevingurrphoenix@cs.com</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:altdive@ia*.co*.au*" = title=3Daltdive@ia*.co*.au*>Kevin=20 Denlay</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:john@sc*.co*" = title=3Djohn@sc*.co*>John=20 Thornton</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:johan@st*.se*"=20 title=3Djohan@st*.se*>Johan Candert</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:divetek@oc*.co*" = title=3Ddivetek@oc*.co*>Jim=20 Mims</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:heinerth@gt*.ne*" = title=3Dheinerth@gt*.ne*>Jill=20 Heinerth</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:iantdhq@ix*.ne*.co*"=20 title=3Diantdhq@ix*.ne*.co*>iantdhq</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:iantdfrance@wa*.fr*"=20 title=3Diantdfrance@wa*.fr*>iantdfrance</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:100044.3401@co*.co*"=20 title=3D100044.3401@co*.co*>IANTD UK</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:info@ia*.co*" = title=3Dinfo@ia*.co*>IANTD Sweden</A>=20 ; <A href=3D"mailto:iantdsa@ia*.co*" = title=3Diantdsa@ia*.co*>IANTD South=20 Africa</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:egil@av*.fi*"=20 title=3Degil@av*.fi*>IANTD Scandanvia</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:khooss@si*.co*.sg*" = title=3Dkhooss@si*.co*.sg*>IANTD S.E.=20 Asia</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:po12210@pt*.ib*.co*" = title=3Dpo12210@pt*.ib*.co*>IANTD=20 Portugal</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:techsec@i-*.co*.ph*"=20 title=3Dtechsec@i-*.co*.ph*>IANTD Philippines Alex</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:psdivers@ku*.gu*.ne*" = title=3Dpsdivers@ku*.gu*.ne*>IANTD=20 Micronesia</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:aad@sa*.co*" = title=3Daad@sa*.co*>IANTD=20 Korea</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:iantdjp@di*.co*"=20 title=3Diantdjp@di*.co*>IANTD Japan Training</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:IANTDIRL@ao*.co*" title=3DIANTDIRL@ao*.co*>IANTD = Ireland</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:iantdgr@at*.mb*.gr*" = title=3Diantdgr@at*.mb*.gr*>IANTD=20 Greece</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:iantd@su*.de*"=20 title=3Diantd@su*.de*>IANTD Germany</A> ; <A = href=3D"mailto:kony@un*.cz*"=20 title=3Dkony@un*.cz*>IANTD Czech</A> ; <A = href=3D"mailto:iantdbrazil@uo*.co*.br*"=20 title=3Diantdbrazil@uo*.co*.br*>IANTD - BRAZIL</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:gstanton@ma*.fs*.ed*" = title=3Dgstanton@ma*.fs*.ed*>Gregg=20 Stanton</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:gildiver@di*.co*.br*"=20 title=3Dgildiver@di*.co*.br*>Gil</A> ; <A = href=3D"mailto:diveonmix@ao*.co*"=20 title=3Ddiveonmix@ao*.co*>gary taylor</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:ghowland@fw*.gu*.ne*" = title=3Dghowland@fw*.gu*.ne*>Garry=20 Howland</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:75204.1243@co*.co*"=20 title=3D75204.1243@co*.co*>Frans Vandermolen</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:fabio.ruberti@ti*.it*"=20 title=3Dfabio.ruberti@ti*.it*>Fabio Ruberti</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:fabio_amaral@ya*.co*" = title=3Dfabio_amaral@ya*.co*>Fabio=20 Amaral</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:haley@ca*.ky*" = title=3Dhaley@ca*.ky*>Erika=20 Haley</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:egil@ad*.pp*.fi*"=20 title=3Degil@ad*.pp*.fi*>EGIL</A> ; <A = href=3D"mailto:dick@hy*.co*"=20 title=3Ddick@hy*.co*>Dick Rutkowski</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:dicklong@du*.co*" = title=3Ddicklong@du*.co*>Dick=20 Long</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:DThomp@te*.es*" = title=3DDThomp@te*.es*>David=20 Thompson</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:buceo@ca*.co*"=20 title=3Dbuceo@ca*.co*>Casco Antiguo</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:carl.douglas@sl*.se*"=20 title=3Dcarl.douglas@sl*.se*>carl douglas</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:tekdiver@na*.ar*.co*" = title=3Dtekdiver@na*.ar*.co*>Bill=20 Nadeau</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:lamar@di*.co*"=20 title=3Dlamar@di*.co*>Lamar Hires</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 12, 2000 = 9:23=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NAMES PLEASE</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mike</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>One as I told you if you think the BOA will = feelthis is=20 worth and ethics charge compared to the other issues we have to deal = with then=20 I will give you all their names and you may pursue it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I do not know of the past events where Rennaker = has=20 performed unethical actions that reflect on IANTD. Matter off act Bill = has=20 done little to effect IANTD one way or the other</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I seem to get the blunt of your attention I guess = because=20 IANTD is the only agency that even reviewed the circumstances and I'm = the only=20 one who even discusses it with you. So I guess that makes us the bad = guy to=20 you. So be it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mike no one supports any negative behavior. I = personally did=20 give Bill a warning that if he had said such things it could not = happen again,=20 as I have already told you. I and Lamar and others on the IANTD = bOA that=20 I have talked to do not consider this to be a magnitude nor = circumstance to=20 warrant additional actions. We feel this is something you and Bill = could and=20 should ,as the N Fl cave community is rather small, work out among=20 yourselves.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Now Mike this is copied to the entire BOA so = any=20 comments you wish to make to them do so.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR>Respectfully yours,<BR>Tom Mount<BR>CEO IANTD World HQ<BR><A=20 href=3D"http://www.iantd.com">http://www.iantd.com</A><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*"=20 title=3Dmikebruic@di*.co*>Mike Bruic</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*"=20 title=3DTOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>Tom Mount</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:lamar@di*.co*" = title=3Dlamar@di*.co*>Lamar Hires</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 11, 2000 = 6:44=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NAMES = PLEASE</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Tom, you = wrote;</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3><FONT=20 size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3><FONT = size=3D2><<FONT=20 size=3D2>Now no one is accusing anyone of lying accept you when = you accuse=20 them></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3><FONT=20 size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Tom, I think you = are missing=20 the whole point here, "I AM ACCUSING RENNAKER OF LYING", and I = have caught=20 him lying twice trying to save his ass on this one already. I = thought=20 I already proved this to you, and the third time will be when I = find out=20 who the so-called witnesses are.</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2><The only reason = anyone=20 other than a couple of you know anything about this is because you = made it=20 a public knowledge></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Tom read the = letter, Bill=20 himself acknowledges telling other people these lies, so I = guess I=20 should just sit there and take it huh.</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3><FONT = size=3D2><Lamar did say=20 he did not smell beer on your breath but that he also was = not very=20 close to you.> </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>I find that hard to = believe=20 since me and Lamar discussed in every detail where I looked, and=20 where he should look. This even included drawing maps in the = sand,=20 but if this is what Lamar truly said, then I will accept=20 it.</FONT> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2><I have not told = Bill who=20 supported you just that you had someone and he has not demanded = the=20 names></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Tom, you know that = Bill does=20 not need the name, I CC'ed everything to him. Read my letter = again, I do=20 not have nothing to hide</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2>< why = should I give=20 these names to you..............you are not defending yourself = from anyone=20 or anything.></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Tom, stop and think = for a=20 minute, why do you think I filed this complaint??? Rennaker tells = people=20 that I show up to cave recoveries drunk and screaming at him. That = I I'm=20 so drunk that I didn't even realize that I'm not wearing a = drysuit=20 when I get into the water. That he himself could have found = the girl,=20 but instead the sheriffs choose the drunk and stopped him = from=20 getting into the water. So, correct me if I'm wrong, but I=20 take what you are saying here is that if someone is = being=20 prosecuted for lying the defense (Rennaker) can call any = witness he=20 wants to say anything they want and the prosecution (that is me) = is not=20 entitled to here this??? This sounds like a reverse angle to a = Kangaroo=20 Court to me.</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><the two of you should set down = and work=20 it out></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>I tried to Tom, I = even called=20 "you" and Lamar on this one. Sadly, I think the only thing = Rennaker would=20 understand is a ass kicking, and I doubt that would do any good. = Yes, I=20 think he is that stupid.</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2><I do not think = it is=20 reveleant whether you had beer on your breath or not if you were = not=20 diving.></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Ah Tom, wake = up, I was=20 diving.</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> <this is not a serious = issue nor=20 one that has really affected you professionally or personally in = any=20 significant way.></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Great, then you and = Lamar won't=20 take any offense at all when I start promulgating bullshit and = lies about=20 the two of you then will you. As a matter of fact, what you have=20 demonstrated to me is that I can do it over and over again. I came = to the=20 you guys for resolution, not cover-up. You both know that it = is not=20 the first time Rennaker has done this kind of stuff before, and = the way=20 you choose to handle it in the past tells me it will = undoubtedly not=20 be the last. Rennaker has already disgraced and caused all the=20 organizations he represents allot bad PR, and I have only started = where=20 others have left off.</FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>Bruic = </FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*"=20 title=3DTOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>Tom Mount</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*" = title=3Dmikebruic@di*.co*>Mike=20 Bruic</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:lamar@di*.co*" = title=3Dlamar@di*.co*>Lamar=20 Hires</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 11, = 2000 6:07=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NAMES = PLEASE</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mike</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have been teaching thus not even thinking = about this=20 or reading emails</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Now no one is accusing anyone of lying accept = you when=20 you accuse them</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have not told Bill who supported you just = that you had=20 someone and he has not demanded the names</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thus why should I give these names to you and = put then=20 in a line of fire from you, they do not need to get a lot of = heated emails=20 because thy have made a statement. No one has made a complaint = against you=20 so you are not defending yourself from anyone or anything. Bill = would have=20 had more of a right to know as he was accussed by you, but he does = not. If=20 a action had been taken yes then he would have known the = people who=20 started the action. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I had a long talk to Lamar today on this = issue, he does=20 not think this situation would result in anything accept a BOA = action=20 stating the two of you should set down and work it out as it is = more=20 personal than ethical. The only reason anyone other than a couple = of you=20 know anything about this is because you made it a public=20 knowledge</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Lamar did say he did not smell beer on your = breath =20 but that he also was not very close to you. He does not look at = this as a=20 serious event and does not (like me) understand why it is being = blown so=20 far out of proportion. Have you read some of your own published = post.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I do not think it is reveleant whether you had = beer on=20 your breath or not if you were not diving. nor do I think anyone = else=20 would. And I definitely believe you were not drunk. I see no need = to=20 contact the sheriff deputies as no formal action is going to be = pursued .=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>We take a lot of actions on a lot of issues = this is not=20 a serious issue nor one that has really affected you = professionally or=20 personally in any significant way. If you want to push it = then=20 contact Lamar who is quite active on the BOA and I think he will = state=20 what I have just stated. Lamar is CCed on this post</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you still are not satisified I will give = you the=20 entire BOA contacts and you can get everyones opnion but I think = it will=20 be about the same. Especially as some of your actions most likely = would be=20 considered as well . You know the old kittle and pot = return</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR>Respectfully yours,<BR>Tom Mount<BR>CEO IANTD World = HQ<BR><A=20 href=3D"http://www.iantd.com">http://www.iantd.com</A><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:mikebruic@di*.co*"=20 title=3Dmikebruic@di*.co*>Mike Bruic</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*"=20 title=3DTOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>Tom Mount</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 11, = 2000 3:00=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> NAMES = PLEASE</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Tom, Monday has come and gone and you still have not told = me the=20 names of Rennaker's witnesses. They have had all weekend to = collaborate=20 and get their lies straight, and just like Rennaker has a right = to see=20 my witnesses, I do to. Or does he really have any? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> = <DIV>Bruic</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK QUOTE></BOD= Y></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BFA459.DFFCE240--
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