No, I don't know Bill Rennaker or any other people in question, but I would not allow it for my family or anyone I felt responsible for. Although I don't teach cave, I'd seriously consider whether I put a buddy at risk, let alone a student, should I be in a similar condition myself. r Paul I have a simple question for "all" the members of this list. Would you, or would you not let someone who is obese, had a heart attack and/or stroke take a child or loved one of yours into a cave for instruction? All that is needed in your reply is a "yes" or "no". Please feel free however to make any other comments for or against that you wish too. Bruic
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