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Gary, 
I personally know some of the founding members of GUE and have the upmost 
trust in them. I've dove with Tyler, done buissness with Extreme, and have 
been always treated with politeness and generocity with any of the WKPP 
personel, in person or on the net. The NSS-CDS, on the other hand, has had 
some proven financial problems in money accountability. The leadership of the 
CDS and the membership were victims of criminal action. But the NSS 
leadership had the inescapable responsibility to safeguard the member funds. 
This failed, no question. The organization also has lost the edge in quality. 
One week quals. are proof of that.  I fear quantity over quality has been the 
evolution of the CDS. Like the " old south " , change is is inevitable and 
required. That is why I posted my position in my last post. Like the 
dinosaurs and the old south. It's going to happen inevitably. Which do you 
want to support.  Thanks  Mark Ost

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