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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:33:01 -0500
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Barbara Peterson <nocturne_cvs@ya*.co*>
CC: cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Bent Jill
Barbara, looks like you are a lttle short of facts, eh? Let me give you
some. Fact - the decompressions done by Jill at Wakulla following the
dives she is still lying about were ridiculous and done in a chamber,
and yet were not even successful. Fact - we decompress in a fraction of
the time and have no chamber to do it in. Fact - you have no idea what
"judgement" is in the first place, and no idea what you are talking
about. 

Being a slob and staging perpetual charlie foxtrots and lying about them
is for people like Jill, not us. 

To make it all even funnier, she is bragging from her hospital bed about
adding 100 feet of line to a line that Trout and I put in on a sneak
dive on a stage bottle on open circuit ( we got out of the water with
full hundreds) and she was there for a week using a closed circuit
rebreather, and her slob husband had to go borrow gas from us to get the
gear out of the cave. We visited, saw the whole thing, added a little
line until our "bad judgement" told us we were beyond the depth of our
mix, and boogied.

Funny, both of us dove the next day. I think my boy Trout got
dehydrated, and that went away, not exactly the kind of thing we are
talking about here.  When I ever get bent, you'll hear about it. Trout
did wuit rebreather diving , but the two have nothing to do with each
other, bvut with how much time one has to devote to this sport. I might
as well have quit , too, since I only did it once or twice last year and
once this year.

It is pathetic that you think that "Pit" is some major achievement in
diving. It is a deep room with squirly holes off of it. It is a bounce
dive. It takes an 80 al stage bottle to do it. It is not the big event
that you think it is, and my only interest in diving it was to see it,
and to piss the strokes off, which it did , or so I hear, just like when
Gavin and I went down there and toasted a few of the "unreachable" ends
of the line that the local weenies were crowing about.

This is all ridiculous - the fact is that Jill is a lying publicity
seeker who needs a kick in the ass. She is not in any kind of phsyical
condition for this type of diving, and neither is her husband - they are
both a joke. Come see our guys at a dive and tell me what they look like
- racehorses, and they have their act together, and they do not lie
about their dives.

We have spent years in the WKP , Leon Sinks , and Wakulla, and Jill
spent three months almost screwing all that up and then lying about it
and making us all look like asses in the media worldide due to the
accidents, the lies, the bullshit and the perpetual clusterfuck that
they ran there. Luckily, the job still needs to be done, and the WKPP is
the only group proven to be able to do it, as much as that bothers the
rest of you, but yo ahve yor lying heros to worship and they can tell
you tall tales and keep you all happy. We'll just give you the numbers
as they roll in.

As some other told you , we are all sick of Jill and her lies, and sick
of what we do being reduced to bullshit by the pretense that she could
ever do it - SHE CAN NOT, and she keeps proving that, Baba.

Barbara Peterson wrote:
> 
> >>I love to see slobs like this get wacked trying
> > > to do what fit divers can do in their sleep. She
> is
> > pathetic.
> > >
> 
> An event occurred a few months ago.  I don't remember
> the name of the individual, tho I believe he was WKPP
> endorsed, who executed poor judgement on a cave dive.
> He had trekked all the way to the site (in Mexico?)
> and was exhausted, went diving anyway, and serious
> problems resulted.  I don't remember the exact
> details.  However the resultant illness caused him to
> give up diving for a while.  Anyone else remember
> this?  In any event, he was a pro, exercised poor
> judgement due to the fact that he was tired, and paid
> the price.  But since he was a WKPP-er...
> 
> As for Sally Ride, she was not a dillettante who had
> forced her way onto the shuttle in a position of
> power.  She was a mission specialist, a public
> relations stunt, sure, if you like, but since she was
> a passenger and not in charge of piloting the shuttle
> or using substandard material to design/build the
> shuttle, to even equate her to Jill Heinerth is foolish.
> 
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