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From: Lance Carlson <lcarlson@n-*.co*>
To: "'cavers@cavers.com'" <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: RE: Bondage Wings?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:45:59 -0600
Organization: neurocorp
Jack,

How typical of the current trend and attitude:

	"I'll just go out and buy myself some Halcyon wings, Explorer Pro Light 
and couple of Scuba Pro MK20/G250's , breath the long hose and I will be 
'Doing It Right' "

We all know that's bullshit.........and now you know it too......its more 
than just gear, its the right attitude and that's what George has been 
trying to pound into people like you who challenge a proven attitude with 
some speak before we think mentality.  Its ok for you to feel sorry for 
those guys, but don't get your panties in a bunch over george asking if 
bondage wings were involved.  Its better to model off facts and that's what 
he (George) is trying to establish, fact is guy had a certain type of gear. 
 His gear was a reflection of his attitude as was his 'choice' to scooter 
on an intro card and break rule number one.  We all can make bad choices at 
one time or another, but a string of bad choices gets us into a pinch.

	


-----Original Message-----
From:	Trey [SMTP:trey@ne*.co*]
Sent:	Friday, March 10, 2000 9:06 AM
To:	Kreska Jack-FJK003
Cc:	'cavers@cavers.com'
Subject:	Re: Bondage Wings?

Jack, it is not my job to "contribute" to the sport, but the fact is I
have ,and ahave done so far more than the combined forces that produce
stroke gear, stroke techiqiues, stroke thinking , and the inevitable
death toll will ever understand.

I don't need to hear bullshit out of your lame ass.

Kreska Jack-FJK003 wrote:
>
> Gee, George, or Pal, when did I ever recommend bondage wings? As far as 
what
> I use, how would you have any idea, we've never met and I seriously doubt
> you've ever seen me dive since I'm not qualified to do the type of diving
> you do.
>
> Your arrogance and conceit don't contribute to the sport much. I simply
> asked how bondage wings could have contributed to his death and all you
> "superior divers" respond as if I'm supposed to know or I'm stupid and a
> stroke for not knowing. Since I've never tried them, how should I know?
>
> Now, how about a reasonable response from someone? Maybe Bill Mee, he 
seems
> to be able to converse intelligently.
>
> Jack
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 8:37 AM
> > To: Kreska Jack-FJK003
> > Cc: 'Pete J Stueve'; cavers@cavers.com
> > Subject: Re: Bondage Wings?
> >
> >
> > Gee, Jack, I don't know. Let's see here. We have a fine
> > performance by a
> > pair of real pros : one who obviously can't dive and dies proving it,
> > and a true stroke who leaves buddy per the Rennaker "who is the most
> > improtant diver" mentality.
> >
> > Let me ask you this , Jack, what kidn of MORON uses bondage wings? Is
> > this an example, or what?
> >
> > Look, pal, I am real sick of you and the mentality you represent. You
> > don't get it. People are dying and you geniuses can't see the big
> > picture. The big picture is that most of you have no clue how
> > to do any
> > of this, and you are all honding hands in your ingnorance and trying
> > desperately to defend your bullshit practices, bullshit thinking ,
> > bullshit gear, and bullshit instruction - all contibuting factors to
> > this INEVEITABLE outcome in my opinion.
> >
> >
> > Kreska Jack-FJK003 wrote:
> > >
> > > What does that have to do with his death? Notice that he
> > still had air and
> > > the reg was out of his mouth. Seems like he panicked to me????
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Pete J Stueve [mailto:pstueve@ju*.co*]
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 6:55 AM
> > > > To: cavers@cavers.com
> > > > Subject: Bondage Wings?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > George asked a couple days ago was the guy at Little River wearing
> > > > bondage wings.  Yes, the dead diver was indeed wearing
> > bondage wings.
> > > >
> > > > pete
> > > >
> >
> >

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