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From: Lance Carlson <lcarlson@n-*.co*>
To: "'Kreska Jack-FJK003'" <Jack_Kreska-FJK003@em*.mo*.co*>,
     "'trey@ne*.co*'"
Cc: "'cavers@cavers.com'" <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: RE: Bondage Wings?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:06:09 -0600
Organization: neurocorp
For someone who doesn't like to get burned, you shouldn't play with
matches...........

-----Original Message-----
From:	Kreska Jack-FJK003 [SMTP:Jack_Kreska-FJK003@em*.mo*.co*]
Sent:	Friday, March 10, 2000 8:55 AM
To:	'trey@ne*.co*'
Cc:	'cavers@cavers.com'
Subject:	RE: Bondage Wings?

Gee, George, or Pal, when did I ever recommend bondage wings? As far as what
I use, how would you have any idea, we've never met and I seriously doubt
you've ever seen me dive since I'm not qualified to do the type of diving
you do.

Your arrogance and conceit don't contribute to the sport much. I simply
asked how bondage wings could have contributed to his death and all you
"superior divers" respond as if I'm supposed to know or I'm stupid and a
stroke for not knowing. Since I've never tried them, how should I know?

Now, how about a reasonable response from someone? Maybe Bill Mee, he seems
to be able to converse intelligently.

Jack

> -----Original Message-----
> From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 8:37 AM
> To: Kreska Jack-FJK003
> Cc: 'Pete J Stueve'; cavers@cavers.com
> Subject: Re: Bondage Wings?
> 
> 
> Gee, Jack, I don't know. Let's see here. We have a fine 
> performance by a
> pair of real pros : one who obviously can't dive and dies proving it,
> and a true stroke who leaves buddy per the Rennaker "who is the most
> improtant diver" mentality.
> 
> Let me ask you this , Jack, what kidn of MORON uses bondage wings? Is
> this an example, or what?
> 
> Look, pal, I am real sick of you and the mentality you represent. You
> don't get it. People are dying and you geniuses can't see the big
> picture. The big picture is that most of you have no clue how 
> to do any
> of this, and you are all honding hands in your ingnorance and trying
> desperately to defend your bullshit practices, bullshit thinking ,
> bullshit gear, and bullshit instruction - all contibuting factors to
> this INEVEITABLE outcome in my opinion.
> 
> 
> Kreska Jack-FJK003 wrote:
> > 
> > What does that have to do with his death? Notice that he 
> still had air and
> > the reg was out of his mouth. Seems like he panicked to me????
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pete J Stueve [mailto:pstueve@ju*.co*]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 6:55 AM
> > > To: cavers@cavers.com
> > > Subject: Bondage Wings?
> > >
> > >
> > > George asked a couple days ago was the guy at Little River wearing
> > > bondage wings.  Yes, the dead diver was indeed wearing 
> bondage wings.
> > >
> > > pete
> > >
> 
> 

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