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From: "Chris Werner" <clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*>
To: "Frans Vandermolen" <Vandermolen@co*.co*>,
     "KVI"
Cc: "Joel Silverstein" <joelsilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*>,
     ,
     "Lawrence Orchard-London" ,
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     "Dan L. Volker" ,
     "\"\\\"Jess Armantrout\\\"\"" ,
     , "Jim Cobb" ,
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     "Victor Williams" ,
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     "Shelley orlowski" ,
     "Richard Pyle" ,
     "Richard Nordstrom" <74663.1663@co*.co*>,
     "REG BOER @ BARBARA HENSBY" ,
     "Paul Neilsen" ,
     "Paul Lijnen" ,
     "Nick Jewson" ,
     "Lamar Hires" ,
     "Kim Cochrane" ,
     "kevin gurr" <100044.3401@co*.co*>,
     "Joseph Dituri" ,
     "John Thornton" ,
     "Jim Mims" ,
     "Jill Heinerth" ,
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     "Gregg Stanton" ,
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     "Gil" ,
     "Garry Howland" ,
Subject: Re: DEEP AIR VOTE
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:57:38 -0400
Frans, maybe the problem is that most on IANTD's BOA have no clue how to do
any of this type of diving in the first place. You can all talk the talk and
walk the walk, but it is obvious to everyone in the dive community that none
of you do any real diving. Please be my guest and remove yourself from this
thread.

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: Frans Vandermolen <Vandermolen@co*.co*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Cc: Joel Silverstein <joelsilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*>;
<john@ro*.co*.uk*>; Lawrence Orchard-London
<lorchard@Ru*.co*>; "\"Jody Everett\"" <jeverett@ne*.co*>;
Dan L. Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>; "\"Jess Armantrout\""
<armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; <kirvne@sa*.ne*>; Jim Cobb
<cobber@ci*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>; Jr." <ahall@da*.co*>;
William J Turbeville II <bturbo@ga*.ne*>; Victor Williams
<diving@sp*.co*>; Vebjørn Karlsen <karlsenv@on*.no*>; Shelley
orlowski <orlowski@at*.ne*>; Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>;
Richard Nordstrom <74663.1663@co*.co*>; REG BOER @ BARBARA HENSBY
<regboer@bi*.co*>; Paul Neilsen <mandarin@ga*.ne*.hk*>; Paul Lijnen
<paull@vi*.uu*.be*>; Nick Jewson <NickJewson@co*.co*>; Lamar
Hires <lamar@di*.co*>; Kim Cochrane &l
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: DEEP AIR VOTE


> Message text written by INTERNET:kirvine@sa*.ne*
> >While you joke around , this cc list is mostly composed of people who
> are not only known to endorse deep air ( IANTD Deep Air courses )diving,
> but are the "board of advisors" ( pause while the laughter subsides -
> this is not a joke) that Mouth claims as his excuse for teaching deep
> air - these people insist on it according to Tom, and we all know Tom is
> not like me- he does not "dictate" like I do, but then I don't like
> problems, so I dictate, but then my guys all think as I do , so I do not
> really have to dictate - they do it for me. Tom is a tough guy, he can
> handle tons of problems at once, as evidenced again by this cc list.
> <
>
> Mr. Irvine,
>
> Here you go again.
>
> I do take offense to the above statement. Being on the BOA, I know several
> other
> members of the BOA that like myself advocate use of air to about 40fsw.
> Below that
> Nitrox mixes, flollowed by trimix mixes and or heliox.
>
> I would appreciate it to be removed from this thread, because name calling
> of Stone,
> Heinerth and others serves no other purpose than trying to be a rude and
> selfserving
> individual, something I already know about you. If you really want us to
> listen to you,
> please be constructive.
>
> Thanks,
> frans
>


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