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From: "Jess Armantrout" <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: "Jeff Waugh" <jrwaugh@ix*.ne*.co*>
Cc: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aq*.co*>, "cavers" <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: Trout is alive and PISSED!
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:28:04 -0500
Thank you for yet another valuable contribution.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Waugh <jrwaugh@ix*.ne*.co*>
To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
Cc: Techdiver <techdiver@aq*.co*>; cavers <cavers@cavers.com>
Date: Thursday, August 12, 1999 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Trout is alive and PISSED!


>Sorry, but I don't eat fish! By the way, wasn't it way back in Open Water
class
>that they teach you  that it is not a very good idea to heavily exert one's
self
>before a dive? I would think that a 7 kilometer hike in 100 degree heat,
headed
>into a Mexican jungle to do a 350' exploration dive is a really bad idea!
I'm
>sure your local PADI Training Facility can provide you with a SCUBA
Refresher
>course for a small fee.
>
>Have a nice day! Jeff
>
>Jess Armantrout wrote:
>
>> Well, I can see I can't leave you guys alone for a minute.  I turn my
back
>> and you revert to the same old b.s.   I can't even keep track of who is
>> saying what, so I will just address the crap I have been able to wade
>> through.  Just that makes this a long enough post.
>>
>> JT seems to be running his mouth saying I wound up face down in Sally
Ward
>> and that is why I quit diving.  Well, that is obviously bullshit.  First,
I
>> haven't even dove there in a year and a half.  Second, I'm still diving,
>> more than all of the cyber divers on these lists.  Appearantly he or
>> somebody in his little clan didn't buy my story of "skin bends" as being
a
>> good enough reason to back off of the deep stuff so they made up their
own
>> story to suit there own needs.  I wrote to JT asking him what the deal is
>> but since he has refused to answer, and since I never actually saw the
post,
>> only had it forwarded to me, I will just take it up here.
>>
>> Hey, tough guy, we hiked 7 kilometers into the jungle of Mexico in 100
>> degree heat, did a 350' deep mixed gas exploration dive and upon
surfacing I
>> had severe soreness in the fat around my mid section.  We call that
>> slobitis, is a type of skin bends and it was most likely do to
dehydration
>> and the fact that deco from those depths is a little tough.  Eight hours
>> later, at three in the morning while sleeping in hammocks under mosquito
>> netting in the jungle after having eaten food made by Mike Madden, I had
>> some nausea and dizziness.  The next day, I was better, dove shallow with
my
>> wife then hiked back out of the jungle.  End of story.  Don't try to read
>> any more into.
>>
>> Then we have this other idiot Jeff Waugh taking pot shots at the WKPP
>> because of pictures he saw in a magazine?!?  First, suck my dick.  Then,
>> drag your sorry ass to Wakulla and find out how the WKPP does things, why
>> they do things and why everybody always goes home at the end of the day.
>> Nobody ever dives bottles on the right in the cave.  Occasionally, a
support
>> diver ferrying bottles has 4 or more on each side.  He has no light to
>> crush, idiot, as he is in the basin.  Even if he did, Barry Miller lights
>> don't crush anyway.  On occassion, at the last minute a gas diver is
asked
>> to drop a deco bottle off on his way in.  To expedite the process, he
throws
>> it on his right chest D ring for the 100 foot or so scooter across the
basin
>> to the drop point.  Big deal.  The fact that this is the best shot you
can
>> take is further validation of how well the WKPP does things.
>>
>> For those actually out there trying to learn, stage bottles are always on
>> the left because, primarily, to do other wise encumbers the deployment of
>> the long hose.  Obviously, anybody in the water at Wakulla knows this.
>> Additionally, everybody knows that the scooter is driven with the right
>> hand, not as easily accomplished with stage bottles on the right.
Finally,
>> and you won't know this until you put the whole package together, bottles
on
>> the left are the most slip stream efficient way to scooter.  I have done
>> five stages, all on the left plus tow 3 scooters, all where they go as
well.
>>
>> Bigmouth Von bitches about 3 inch tall numbers on "duck" tape when most
big
>> time tech divers wouldn't know a correct bottle marking scheme if it
walked
>> up and slapped them on their over sized asses?  Well, see my earlier
>> suggestions to Jeff:  Suck my dick then drag your ass down and see how
>> things are done at the big pond.
>>
>> Then there's the clown who can't figure out the difference between 300
foot
>> ocean dives and 300 foot cave dives.  Fortunately, Peter covered that one
>> and I don't have to.
>>
>> Finally, there is the rebreather list, but we just don't have time to
cover
>> that here.
>>
>> Who else needs pounding?  I can't keep track.
>>
>> Now, I have my first triathalon coming up and I would like to get back to
my
>> training so will you idiots out there that don't have a clue what you're
>> talking about please shut the hell up so I don't have to be bothered by
your
>> bullshit.
>>
>> Have a nice day,
>> Trout
>>
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