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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:34:32 -0400
Organization: DIR
To: Jeff Waugh <jrwaugh@ix*.ne*.co*>
CC: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>,
     Techdiver , cavers
Subject: Re: Trout is alive and PISSED!
Jeff, it is not as bad as it sounds: I was carrying Trout on my
shoulders. 


Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> Sorry, but I don't eat fish! By the way, wasn't it way back in Open Water
class
> that they teach you  that it is not a very good idea to heavily exert one's
self
> before a dive? I would think that a 7 kilometer hike in 100 degree heat,
headed
> into a Mexican jungle to do a 350' exploration dive is a really bad idea! I'm
> sure your local PADI Training Facility can provide you with a SCUBA Refresher
> course for a small fee.
> 
> Have a nice day! Jeff
> 
> Jess Armantrout wrote:
> 
> > Well, I can see I can't leave you guys alone for a minute.  I turn my back
> > and you revert to the same old b.s.   I can't even keep track of who is
> > saying what, so I will just address the crap I have been able to wade
> > through.  Just that makes this a long enough post.
> >
> > JT seems to be running his mouth saying I wound up face down in Sally Ward
> > and that is why I quit diving.  Well, that is obviously bullshit.  First, I
> > haven't even dove there in a year and a half.  Second, I'm still diving,
> > more than all of the cyber divers on these lists.  Appearantly he or
> > somebody in his little clan didn't buy my story of "skin bends" as being a
> > good enough reason to back off of the deep stuff so they made up their own
> > story to suit there own needs.  I wrote to JT asking him what the deal is
> > but since he has refused to answer, and since I never actually saw the post,
> > only had it forwarded to me, I will just take it up here.
> >
> > Hey, tough guy, we hiked 7 kilometers into the jungle of Mexico in 100
> > degree heat, did a 350' deep mixed gas exploration dive and upon surfacing I
> > had severe soreness in the fat around my mid section.  We call that
> > slobitis, is a type of skin bends and it was most likely do to dehydration
> > and the fact that deco from those depths is a little tough.  Eight hours
> > later, at three in the morning while sleeping in hammocks under mosquito
> > netting in the jungle after having eaten food made by Mike Madden, I had
> > some nausea and dizziness.  The next day, I was better, dove shallow with my
> > wife then hiked back out of the jungle.  End of story.  Don't try to read
> > any more into.
> >
> > Then we have this other idiot Jeff Waugh taking pot shots at the WKPP
> > because of pictures he saw in a magazine?!?  First, suck my dick.  Then,
> > drag your sorry ass to Wakulla and find out how the WKPP does things, why
> > they do things and why everybody always goes home at the end of the day.
> > Nobody ever dives bottles on the right in the cave.  Occasionally, a support
> > diver ferrying bottles has 4 or more on each side.  He has no light to
> > crush, idiot, as he is in the basin.  Even if he did, Barry Miller lights
> > don't crush anyway.  On occassion, at the last minute a gas diver is asked
> > to drop a deco bottle off on his way in.  To expedite the process, he throws
> > it on his right chest D ring for the 100 foot or so scooter across the basin
> > to the drop point.  Big deal.  The fact that this is the best shot you can
> > take is further validation of how well the WKPP does things.
> >
> > For those actually out there trying to learn, stage bottles are always on
> > the left because, primarily, to do other wise encumbers the deployment of
> > the long hose.  Obviously, anybody in the water at Wakulla knows this.
> > Additionally, everybody knows that the scooter is driven with the right
> > hand, not as easily accomplished with stage bottles on the right.  Finally,
> > and you won't know this until you put the whole package together, bottles on
> > the left are the most slip stream efficient way to scooter.  I have done
> > five stages, all on the left plus tow 3 scooters, all where they go as well.
> >
> > Bigmouth Von bitches about 3 inch tall numbers on "duck" tape when most big
> > time tech divers wouldn't know a correct bottle marking scheme if it walked
> > up and slapped them on their over sized asses?  Well, see my earlier
> > suggestions to Jeff:  Suck my dick then drag your ass down and see how
> > things are done at the big pond.
> >
> > Then there's the clown who can't figure out the difference between 300 foot
> > ocean dives and 300 foot cave dives.  Fortunately, Peter covered that one
> > and I don't have to.
> >
> > Finally, there is the rebreather list, but we just don't have time to cover
> > that here.
> >
> > Who else needs pounding?  I can't keep track.
> >
> > Now, I have my first triathalon coming up and I would like to get back to my
> > training so will you idiots out there that don't have a clue what you're
> > talking about please shut the hell up so I don't have to be bothered by your
> > bullshit.
> >
> > Have a nice day,
> > Trout
> >
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