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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:10:14 -0700
From: Jeff Waugh <jrwaugh@ix*.ne*.co*>
To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
CC: Techdiver <techdiver@aq*.co*>, cavers <cavers@cavers.com>
Subject: Re: Trout is alive and PISSED!
Sorry, but I don't eat fish! By the way, wasn't it way back in Open Water class
that they teach you  that it is not a very good idea to heavily exert one's self
before a dive? I would think that a 7 kilometer hike in 100 degree heat, headed
into a Mexican jungle to do a 350' exploration dive is a really bad idea! I'm
sure your local PADI Training Facility can provide you with a SCUBA Refresher
course for a small fee.

Have a nice day! Jeff

Jess Armantrout wrote:

> Well, I can see I can't leave you guys alone for a minute.  I turn my back
> and you revert to the same old b.s.   I can't even keep track of who is
> saying what, so I will just address the crap I have been able to wade
> through.  Just that makes this a long enough post.
>
> JT seems to be running his mouth saying I wound up face down in Sally Ward
> and that is why I quit diving.  Well, that is obviously bullshit.  First, I
> haven't even dove there in a year and a half.  Second, I'm still diving,
> more than all of the cyber divers on these lists.  Appearantly he or
> somebody in his little clan didn't buy my story of "skin bends" as being a
> good enough reason to back off of the deep stuff so they made up their own
> story to suit there own needs.  I wrote to JT asking him what the deal is
> but since he has refused to answer, and since I never actually saw the post,
> only had it forwarded to me, I will just take it up here.
>
> Hey, tough guy, we hiked 7 kilometers into the jungle of Mexico in 100
> degree heat, did a 350' deep mixed gas exploration dive and upon surfacing I
> had severe soreness in the fat around my mid section.  We call that
> slobitis, is a type of skin bends and it was most likely do to dehydration
> and the fact that deco from those depths is a little tough.  Eight hours
> later, at three in the morning while sleeping in hammocks under mosquito
> netting in the jungle after having eaten food made by Mike Madden, I had
> some nausea and dizziness.  The next day, I was better, dove shallow with my
> wife then hiked back out of the jungle.  End of story.  Don't try to read
> any more into.
>
> Then we have this other idiot Jeff Waugh taking pot shots at the WKPP
> because of pictures he saw in a magazine?!?  First, suck my dick.  Then,
> drag your sorry ass to Wakulla and find out how the WKPP does things, why
> they do things and why everybody always goes home at the end of the day.
> Nobody ever dives bottles on the right in the cave.  Occasionally, a support
> diver ferrying bottles has 4 or more on each side.  He has no light to
> crush, idiot, as he is in the basin.  Even if he did, Barry Miller lights
> don't crush anyway.  On occassion, at the last minute a gas diver is asked
> to drop a deco bottle off on his way in.  To expedite the process, he throws
> it on his right chest D ring for the 100 foot or so scooter across the basin
> to the drop point.  Big deal.  The fact that this is the best shot you can
> take is further validation of how well the WKPP does things.
>
> For those actually out there trying to learn, stage bottles are always on
> the left because, primarily, to do other wise encumbers the deployment of
> the long hose.  Obviously, anybody in the water at Wakulla knows this.
> Additionally, everybody knows that the scooter is driven with the right
> hand, not as easily accomplished with stage bottles on the right.  Finally,
> and you won't know this until you put the whole package together, bottles on
> the left are the most slip stream efficient way to scooter.  I have done
> five stages, all on the left plus tow 3 scooters, all where they go as well.
>
> Bigmouth Von bitches about 3 inch tall numbers on "duck" tape when most big
> time tech divers wouldn't know a correct bottle marking scheme if it walked
> up and slapped them on their over sized asses?  Well, see my earlier
> suggestions to Jeff:  Suck my dick then drag your ass down and see how
> things are done at the big pond.
>
> Then there's the clown who can't figure out the difference between 300 foot
> ocean dives and 300 foot cave dives.  Fortunately, Peter covered that one
> and I don't have to.
>
> Finally, there is the rebreather list, but we just don't have time to cover
> that here.
>
> Who else needs pounding?  I can't keep track.
>
> Now, I have my first triathalon coming up and I would like to get back to my
> training so will you idiots out there that don't have a clue what you're
> talking about please shut the hell up so I don't have to be bothered by your
> bullshit.
>
> Have a nice day,
> Trout
>
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