I have lucked out on that , they passed. 

when they fail , I will opt for steel 95 I think.



At 07:10 PM 7/23/1999 -0400, Drew Glasbrenner (GLY) wrote:
>If I may add further....
>
>They often fail their first hydro,
>
>They cost three times what a good 80 does,
>
>Who can do a proper inspection looking through that ridiculous little
>neck?
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Drew Glasbrenner      University of South Florida Geology Program
>
>"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin in the
>"Historical Review of Pennsylvania"
>
>"My kung-fu is the best, baby"
>
>On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Katherine Irvine wrote:
>
>> You need to pump them to get the volume, and then you would get about
>> the same from aluminum at the same presure. This just stresses the regs.
>> When you go to take them off, they sink.  
>> 
>> 
>> Samy Elashmawy wrote:
>> > 
>> > >- proper gear balance is the correct
>> > 
>> > Agreed
>> > 
>> > >answer, not more gear to offset doing something stupid. I do more ocean
>> > >diving than cave diving,
>> > >
>> > >I dive aluminum 80's and a weight belt and/or a cave light with a wet
>> > >suit, and can drop the belt if I need to get up for any reason, like
>> > >loss of gas, loss of hoses, etc. When diving steel I have a drysuit with
>> > >its own inflation. Big steel tanks on a boat are dumb. 80's with an 80
>> > >stage solves the hoovery problem, the multiple dive problems, and when
>> > >you need to walk around a pitching deck, or take your tanks off in the
>> > >water, you will appreciate the lighter aluminums.
>> > 
>> > Gearge , Why are you so agenst steel tanks on ocean with a dry suit.
Small
>> > Steel ,ie genisis 100s
>> > for example. (I know they rust) They are well balanced , You do not
need to
>> > add a ton of lead to your wight belt.and you have 200 CFT of dive gas.
Much
>> > more stream lined with an alluminum $0 of o2 for deco. Much more than
twin
>> > 80s, a 80 stage and  an aditional 40 cunbe deco bottle.
>> > 
>> > Why drag the additional tanks along when you can do with this setup ?
>> > 
>> > >Trying to manage a mess like double wings or inflators is patently
>> > >ridiculous, and extremely dangerous in my well informed and seasoned
>> > >opinion. Trying to teach pigs to sing in deep water is the excuse most
>> > >often proferred by our fine instuctional community, the mental
>> > >equivalent of roofers or car wash monkees, and I do not pay much
>> > >attention to what they have to say in diving or at the car wash.
>> > >
>> > >Obvious is obvious, and what it most obvious here is that we have idiots
>> > >dispening dive advice at the key levels - a real shame. Good thing there
>> > >are a few good ones out there, and good thing there is an alternative to
>> > >the bullshit - G.U.E.
>> > >
>> > >I got lucky and drew good ones from O/W to cave. Clearly you did not,
>> > >but it is not too late to go find out the real deal. You're missing the
>> > >freedom of diving the DIR way.
>> > >
>> > >Caruso, Christina R (Christina) wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Most tech groups currently recommend Hogarthian set ups or
minimization,
>> > but
>> > >> I have seen numerous editorials defending redundancy for deep ocean
diving
>> > >> and last year there was an article (in Deep Tech I think..) that
suggested
>> > >> dual BCs as an option for this.  I don't think that's as practical
as dual
>> > >> bladders (cleaner set up).  If you want I can try to hunt through
my old
>> > >> copies and try to find the article and therefore the author...
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*]
>> > >> Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 10:49 AM
>> > >> To: Caruso, Christina R (Christina)
>> > >> Cc: cavers@cavers.com
>> > >> Subject: RE: Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale
>> > >>
>> > >> Who recommends dual BC's?
>> > >>
>> > >> At 09:56 AM 7/23/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>> > >> >kirvine@sa*.ne*,
>> > >> >         I know a lot of people have the personal preference of
>> > >> minimization,
>> > >> >and with CAVE diving you can "crawl" out but with deep OCEAN diving
>> > >> >redundancy is recommended.  Sorry I didn't specify that I was
referring to
>> > >> >deep ocean.  The recommended redundancy is either a BCD and a lift
bag
>> > >> >(which can be used for buoyancy if the BC fails) or dual BCs or dual
>> > >> >bladders.  Do you often do DEEP OCEAN diving??  The reason I'm
selling
>> > this
>> > >> >BC is because I don't need or want such redundancy when cave
diving and
>> > >> >don't do deep ocean diving.  I only need a little 45lb wing for my
cave
>> > >> >diving.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >-----Original Message-----
>> > >> >From: kirvine@sa*.ne* [mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*]
>> > >> >Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 12:41 AM
>> > >> >To: Caruso, Christina R (Christina)
>> > >> >Cc: 'Bill Lais'; 'cavers@cavers.com'
>> > >> >Subject: Re: Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >This is a classic " the redundency needs of deep diving". Thanks for
>> > >> >coming in today, Christina.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Caruso, Christina R (Christina) wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > What it is: a BCD, wing style, Scubapro Brand, SuperTek model for
>> > >> >technical
>> > >> > > diving.  It has full redundancy by having two bladders and two
inflator
>> > >> > > hoses - aimed for the redundancy needs of deep diving.  It
requires a
>> > >> > > backplate (like those used for double tanks)
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > > From: Bill Lais [mailto:billlais@mp*.ne*]
>> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 9:25 PM
>> > >> > > To: Caruso, Christina R (Christina); cavers@cavers.com
>> > >> > > Subject: Re: Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Stupbabro Scuper Tek gual dbladder googles
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >  - say what??
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > From: Caruso, Christina R (Christina) <ccaruso@lu*.co*>
>> > >> > > To: <cavers@cavers.com>
>> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 8:06 PM
>> > >> > > Subject: Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > I have a Scubapro Super Tek dual bladder wings for sale.
Owned less
>> > >> >than
>> > >> > > > one year (more wing than I need/want).  Will take $300 or
best offer.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >  Christina Caruso
>> > >> > > >             407-875-4557
>> > >> > > >  FAX: 407-875-4474
>> > >> > > >  pager: 800-258-0336 pin 1273388
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >>
>> > >> -----------------------------------------------
>> > >> Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
>> > >>
>> > >> NW Labor Systems, Inc
>> > >> http://www.nwls.com
>> > >>
>> > >> Who is John Galt?
>> > >> -----------------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> 
>> 
>
>

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