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Why didn't you send this to Stone and the USDCT? Strokie > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Werner [mailto:clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*] > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 7:36 PM > To: Richard Pyle; Bill Mee > Cc: Jess Armantrout; cavers; KVI > Subject: The usdct saga continues.. > > > To Stone and Co., > It has come to my attention that you are recruiting new > local people for > support at Wakulla. You have gone out and got yourself some > real experienced > people. From what I have heard from them, they will be doing > deep support > for your rebreather divers. This is to inform you that your > choice in very > poor. Not only have you not gotten experienced divers you have picked > untrained divers. I just thought I would let you know that > two of them are > only cavern certified and one is apprentice certified. They > all have less > that 20 real dives in any cavern or cave. I hope you don't > get these guys in > over their heads beyond the restriction. I also suppose that > they will be on > air since deep air heroics got most of the others on the team. > You guys must seriously be hurting for people. I guess > that most of the > experienced guys who might even help you, and they definitely > want to dive > Wakulla basin, have a clue as to how inexperienced your team > really is. What > is worse is that they probably realized that the cast of > circus clowns you > have now, have absolutely no idea what they are doing. > It wouldn't surprise me if that aussie who got bent may > have just gone > for a joy ride, got in over his head and came out scared. > What type of deco > gas was he breathing anyway? I have a feeling that you guys, > just from what > your web page says, probably paid about $20,000 for deco > algorithms that > don't even work and have never been tested. You have overpaid > for everything > else, why not algorithms. The latest update obviously proves > this. Who do > you have advising you on tables now? Some of the infamous > University Diving > Safety Officers, as Pyle eluded to in earlier posts? I'm > surprised you guys > don't have FSU or UF ADP down there, this convoluted > operation is right up > their alley. I don't think Stanton or Murphy could even do > this better than > you have. And those guys are experts with over rigging, overplanning, > convoluted gear setups and unlogical thinking. > Is Pyle your spokesman on here? Because that guy comes > across as one of > the dumbest liars I have ever seen. This guy appears to be > typical of your > personnel. I think Richie has done more harm to your project > than good with > many of his lies about the capability of that deathtrap you > have. What is > the body count on it now? > Lets recap. Deathtrap breather, inexperienced untrained > divers, deco > accident within 10 days, and you guys have not even done a > real dive in > there. I hope someone took out a life insurance policy on you guys. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*> > To: Chris Werner <clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*>; Bill Mee > <wwm@sa*.ne*> > Cc: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; cavers > <cavers@cavers.com>; KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*> > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 4:19 PM > Subject: RE: More USDCTisms > > > >Thanks. > > > >Aloha, > >Rich > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Chris Werner [mailto:clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*] > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 9:48 AM > >> To: Richard Pyle; Bill Mee > >> Cc: Jess Armantrout; cavers; KVI > >> Subject: Re: More USDCTisms > >> > >> > >> Unfortunately Richie, You are not a very intelligent > fellow and you have > >> been making that clear for quite some time. > >> > >> Good luck with which you know little about. Try not to kill > >> yourself either > >> diving or spewing meaningless rebuttals. > >> > >> Concerned with your lack of logic, > >> Chris > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*> > >> To: Chris Werner <clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*>; Bill Mee > <wwm@sa*.ne*> > >> Cc: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; cavers > >> <cavers@cavers.com>; KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*> > >> Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 7:53 AM > >> Subject: RE: More USDCTisms > >> > >> > >> > > >> >Boy, you are an intelligent fella, aren't you. > >> > > >> >Aloha, > >> >Rich > >> > > >> >Richard L. Pyle > >> >Ichthyology, Bishop Museum > >> >1525 Bernice St., Honolulu, HI 96817 > >> >Ph: (808) 848-4115 Fax: (808) 847-8252 > >> >email: deepreef@bi*.or* > >> > > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Chris Werner [mailto:clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*] > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 2:23 AM > >> >> To: Richard Pyle; Bill Mee > >> >> Cc: Jess Armantrout; cavers; KVI > >> >> Subject: Re: More USDCTisms > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> We have a diving physiology > >> >> >workgroup consisting of myself, Joe, John Earle, Dave Pence > >> (U.H. Diving > >> >> >Safety Officer), and Dr. Bob Overlock (Chamber guru > for the state of > >> >> >Hawaii). We meet about once a month to have serious > discussions > about > >> >> >particular aspects of diving physiology. One of our > first meetings > >> >> >discussed cutis marmorata. We have it on videotape, if you'd > >> >> like to see a > >> >> >copy. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Richie, You say here you have a diving safety officer > for UH and a > >> chamber > >> >> guru of the state. In all honesty, these guys have no idea > >> what they are > >> >> talking about. The University Diving Safety Officers are > >> consistently the > >> >> worst in the business. It's a network of good old boys, who > >> consistently > >> >> back each other up with some of the most ridiculous claim out > >> there. The > >> >> AAUS standards are worse than IANTD as far as diver training, > >> and to make > >> >> matters worse these guys consistently believe that they > know what they > >> are > >> >> talking about. The simple fact is that most of them > have convinced the > >> >> Universities and State's that due to liability of > teaching that their > >> >> positions are necessary to head off any potential accidents. The > >> >> funny thing > >> >> is that they consistently are some of the worst > instructors with very > >> >> limited experience and skill. My bet is that most of them join > >> >> the AAUS, so > >> >> that together they have a network to fall on and each > of them back > each > >> >> other up. Its a very sad story. Go to any of the annual meeting > >> >> and see for > >> >> yourself. Claiming that you consult with these guys actually > >> shows us how > >> >> little you know about what you are doing. > >> >> > >> >> Chris > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
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