dan as you can see by the "few" responses that the cocept of "you" setting the requirements for qualifications is not going over well. we all seem to agree on the fact that the instructor & the instruction should be unquestionably of the highest quality. i have always had a problem with people who think the they are perfect (or always correct) & that they are the ones who should decide for everyone else what is the right way to do things. you posed a bunch of questions to me about my grandmother & other items that i think have been more eloquently addressed by others (thak you jammer). i have one for you. you are inn your perfect phyisical condition (i know this because i have read your chest pounding discusions with tom :-) , but what happens to you ten years from now if you happen to fall off the wagon & gain 20 or 25 lbs? (unfortunatly in life things change & you might get sick & gain the wt or you might have a nervous breakdown & start eating uncontrolably:-). who will decide for you hat that point that you are fit or not to continue to dive? are you actually proposing that we should only "control" the new people but forget about the current divers? there are already physical specifications in all of the programs that i am aware of. i see no reason to change them. the istructors should be capable of determining if a person is physicaly able to complet the certification & do the dives (in a safe manor). yes i agree with all who question the ability of instructors who "cheat" on that responsibility. we all are disturbed by the people that die in this sport no matter what level of diving they have reached. but i hate to tell you that the number (although even one is too many) is not "huge" as you said. the diving related deaths in the entire world has been under 100 for years. the huge number of those occur at depths below 130ft deep diving has its problems as does all of diving. IMHO the biggest problem is lack of experience not lack of conditioning. this is a problem that is rampant at all levels of diving today. hank
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