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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 15:20:17 +1100 (EST)
To: zimmmt@au*.al*.co*
From: Billy Williams <billyw@oz*.co*.au*>
Subject: Re: Nitrox stickers
Cc: techdiver@terra.net (techdiver)
At 08:51 AM 10/11/1995 -0500, Mike Zimmerman wrote:

>Not in the interest of discarding safety standards, I would like
>to see more responses to Ken's question of a few days ago.  In 5-6
>years now on the net, reading techdiver for the past (3-4? when did
>it start) years, rec.scuba, and then cavers, I have never heard of
>an oxygen accident at a shop.  I have heard of people having
>homebrew accidents.  I repeat this question mostly for
>my own curiosity.

Never heard of any O2 filling accidents in Oz. I'll ask
around though.  

>As for the "you gotta slap a big honking sticker on it" crowd I challenge
>you to re-read Jammer's story.  All the Nitrox-marked tanks had 21% mix
>in them (some call it air).

No. Jammer said, three times, that the nitrox-marked tanks
contained air. Not 21% mix. Here it is again:

          "The lodge's tanks were all clearly marked
          with nitrox stickers. They all contained
          air. The captain waved his hand at the rear
          of the boat and said "All my tanks have air
          in them." The diver went back to the back of
          the boat, looked around, saw 12 tanks with
          nitrox stickers, (all with air in them) and
          our four tanks with no stickers, filled with
          nitrox."

>  Some people will say this was mis-use of the stickers, well ok,
>  fine, what if those tanks had had 22% in them? Would be a lot
>  harder to call it a mis-use then, but the effect would have been
>  the same.

It's mis-use if the tanks are no longer nitrox-clean.

>All the unmarked tanks had 36% in them.  Had Jammer's tanks been
>marked with Nitrox stickers how would that have helped in ***this***
>situation?  NOT AT ALL.

You're right. Shoot the boat captain. Seriously, it may have
helped if Jammer's tanks had nitrox stickers AND had the MOD
clearly marked. Then the victim may have gone for one of the
other tanks or queried the captain. At least then the
captain's stupidity wouldn't have compounded the stupidity of
leaving unmarked tanks with high ppO2 unattended on a dive
boat where untrained divers were changing tanks.

rgrds                 billyW


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