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> From <@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu:KEN@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*> Wed Oct 18 19:31:09 1995
> From: "Ken Sallot" <KEN@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
> To: "Cave Divers List" <cavers@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
> Subject: The cavers list
>
>
> After careful consideration I have decided to shut down the cavers
> list.
>
> This past weekend we had a royal mud fest between quite a few people.
> This mudfest caused a lot of problems for me at work where the list
> was run from.
>
> It also seems that a good friend of mine is upset because of comments
> I have personally made about the transpack and neutralite. It seems
> that these comments are being taken as personal attacks, and
> unfortunatly he has friends in high places at Dive Rite. He has
> informed me that he doesn't want to have me "bite the hand that feeds
> me", or something to that effect.
>
> I'm going on record here, the last post before removing the list.
>
> I hope that Dive Rite Mfg, inc. takes to heart some of the complaints
> with their products here on the net. Rather then saying, "You guys
> are trashing us", it would be nice to see them say, "Ok, we think
> there might be some valid points, we'll look into it".
>
> I'm glad to see Tom Mount saying that IANTD will look into their
> standards and quite possibly revise the deep air & ppO2 issue. I feel
> that if the lists (Cavers & Techdiver) helped to contribute to this
> decision, then that is good.
>
> I hope that other training agencies follow Tom Mount and IANTD in
> these regards. It's still a sad day in America when Mr. Deep Air still
> trains people hard to 300'.
>
> I hope that George and WKPP find that perfect piece of tunnel that
> connects all the systems in Tally.
>
> I hope every new diver out there learns their own limitations before
> they get in over their head.
>
> I hope that every single cave diver reading this message grows to be
> an old cave diver. I also hope that each and every cave diver on here
> has learned at least one thing about himself from this list.
>
> Peace,
>
> Ken
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> Ken Sallot "High ppO2's can be hazardous to your health"
> CIRCA - Ronnie Bell
> (904) 392-2007
> kens@uf*.ed*
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Can you believe the nerve Dive Rite has to stick their noses up
someones ass at UFL. I guess their answer to their light exploding is
to stop people from finding out abuot it by cutting off OUR source of
information. Dive Rite does not want the public to know about their
defective products for fear it might hurt their poor little pocket
books. I guess they are also worried about lawsuits if someone, or
when someone gets hurt by thier defective products, if they can hide
this fact then they can just blame it on the user as user error. I for
one will not stand for this kind of bullshit and will promise to hound
them and their product till they make amens. Mark and Lamar, if you
are still on this list, you think you can get away with this? I will
not let you or anybody I come in contact with ever forget about how
dangerious your product is. Word of mouth, you know, is a very
powerful thing.
Barry Miller
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